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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed2-b.proxad.net!nnrp1-2.free.fr!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: How did Einstein Develop his Field Equations? When: A. He admitted having little math From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) Reply-To: jjlxa31@xs4all.nl (J. J. Lodder) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 09:16:21 +0100 References: <11ed9ce5561647a339178272953d5c1a@www.novabbs.com> <676bf17f$0$29726$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <27cc03a1ab0488bf362d322e32b4a4dd@www.novabbs.com> <67716585$0$12919$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <058de8e31bcf885d667d37be1d9badf7@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: De Ster Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.8.5 (ea919cf118) (Mac OS 10.12.6) Lines: 70 Message-ID: <6773a854$0$29719$426a74cc@news.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Dec 2024 09:16:20 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.10.137.58 X-Trace: 1735632980 news-2.free.fr 29719 213.10.137.58:51632 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Bytes: 3516 rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 15:06:47 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 11:50:23 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >> > >>> LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>> How did Einstein Develop his Field Equations? > >>>> > >>>> When: > >>>> A. He admitted having little math and no ability in non-Euclidean > >>>> geometry. > >>>> B. He always relied on someone else to do his math. > >>>> C. He denied getting it from Hilbert. > >>>> D. He never said who he got it from. > >>>> > >>>> Answer: > >>>> He stole them from Hilbert. > >>> > >>> Hilbert disagreed, > >>> > >>> Jan > >> Here are two other versions of the quote; > >> > >> "Every street boy in Gottingen knows as much elliptical geometry as > >> Einstein. But the equations are his." > >> > >> "Every boy in the streets of Gottingen understands more about > >> four-dimensional geometry than Einstein. Yet, in spite of that, Einstein > >> did the work and not the mathematicians." — David Hilbert > >> > >> There is only one way to interpret this. That is Hilbert pointing out > >> that obviously Einstein did not invent the field equations because he > >> could not. > > > > That is your way, and it is obviously wrong. > > Hilbert chides his fellow mathematicians, and hence himself, > > for not having found the correct equation of general relativity, > > despite their superior technical skills. > > Hilbert goes on to state that: > > In spite of that it was Einstein who got there. > > > > You may guess what Hilbert did next: (see the ref supplied by RH) > > ==== > > On December 4th, Hilbert even nominated Einstein for election as a > > corresponding member of the Göttingen Mathematical Society. > > (So to his own backyard, where all those superior Gottingen > > mathematicians dwelt. It was the highest honour he could bestow > > personally) > > ==== > > > > Just what you would expect Hilbert to do, > > if he considered Einstein an incompetent bungler > > who had just stolen his results. > > > > You had better forget about all this. > > You are wrong about it, period. > > > > Jan > > Stop talking idiocies, [snip abuse, and new irrelevancies] Do you deny that the text I quoted is in the reference you gave? Jan