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On 1/27/2025 4:38 PM, john larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:17:44 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 09:56:43 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 11:29:00 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gentlemen,
>>>>
>>>> I never ceases to amaze me that for all I've learned about the theory
>>>> side of electronics over the years, my construction skills have not
>>>> improved one iota since I was about 10 years old. Case in point:
>>>>
>>>> https://disk.yandex.com/i/zGA2slnrNWqGjQ
>>>>
>>>> I cobbled this board up to automatically turn on the water supply when
>>>> the soil moisture fell below a certain amount. I've got 240V/10A wires
>>>> juxtaposed next to low voltage signal interconnects and components
>>>> with the insulation smeared through by careless use of a soldering
>>>> iron all secured with blobs of hot melt glue and many of the component
>>>> lead ends close to shorting out. It's obvious I've paid scant regard
>>>> to layout considerations as you can tell. I'm posting this so John
>>>> Larkin can see for himself that having the ability to visualize 3-D
>>>> apples with insects etc is of no help whatsoever in laying out boards.
>>>
>>> Works for me.
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kmjfxcvsix8fwmcyy6map/T840_E1.jpg?rlkey=tbvmyna46bkfxc3lc6a6yv64q&raw=1
>>
>> Sorry - what exactly works for you?
> 
> Visualizing the schematic and the layout and making both as beautiful
> as possible. Beautiful things work better.

I noticed that if you turn the Highland Technology logo sideways it 
looks kind of like a lady with three boobs.

>> Are you saying you can visualize
>> *and* layout a board?
> 
> Certainly. PCB layout is fun, like a 3D color chess game. But it's so
> labor intensive that I delegate most layouts. I do a few critical
> ones, like picosecond stuff, because it's harder to explain to someone
> else than it is to just do it.
> 
>> Or are you saying this board has 240VAC in
>> places with high currents? Or both?!
> 
> The T840 makes 1200 volt pulses. There's no AC involved. It's powered
> by 24 VDC.
> 


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