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Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us1.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=d7PU>keHB4AZbLPDf7U4aOU5[F2hIijDO7J470dMQQ7KAUDUcSnb?@IE_MTfRQdZnMZ:CMO0P>2oDW@E8<O<J]3@63^FDd_VWmGR<@>HgL4:V@_[?n`d5S`@E X-Complaints-To: support@frugalusenet.com Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 01:00:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Product idea Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design References: <67ab9473$15$1783$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vog9lr$1tu2d$1@dont-email.me> <vogdq3$1uld9$1@dont-email.me> <voggm7$1v514$1@dont-email.me> <do4t7lxvhi.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vohnjn$28iki$1@dont-email.me> <e0rpqjt9jbvfljp9gv81j4caor188raurh@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US From: bitrex <user@example.net> In-Reply-To: <e0rpqjt9jbvfljp9gv81j4caor188raurh@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 Message-ID: <67ad8a3d$5$2328641$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1739426365 reader.netnews.com 2328641 127.0.0.1:43437 Bytes: 2123 On 2/12/2025 1:49 PM, john larkin wrote: >> A "drop-in" baseboard heating unit with internet connection >> seems the easy option. >> > > Our home computers are already resistive space heaters. Desktop computers that put out significant heat have gone the way of the dodo for most people under the age of 40 probably, those who aren't PC gamers, anyway. I have a couple pieces of "big iron" that's partly because I'm just old-fashioned; I have some gear connected to the little cube PC in the lab and I like doing backups to my own home server as well as the cloud. My laptop at idle doesn't heat a thing and at full tilt puts out enough to warm up one finger, maybe. > As is our gas cooking range. It puts heat into the house more > efficiently that our gas central heater, because there's no heat being > exported through an exhaust vent. > > I've considered trying to recover some heat from the vent, or from the > house drain water, but either would be a bunch of work. >