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On 2/15/2025 3:29 PM, john larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 20:04:55 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
> 
>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 07:55:43 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:07:18 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
>>>> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> For once - once! - a politician makes a speech I actually enjoyed!
>>>>>
>>>>> It was clearly aimed at the home market; he was supposed to be there to
>>>>> talk about security in Europe and never even mentioned Ukraine.  All
>>>>> that this speech has done is to turn most European countries against the
>>>>> kind of ignorant, thuggish, self-serving America he represents.
>>>>
>>>> Nice work.
>>>
>>> Quite. Hopefully the Trump voters on this forum won't object to being
>>> called "ignorant, thuggish and self-serving."
>>
>>
>> I'm sure they will object to being called that, but they may as well
>> know that's what some of them look like from a lot of countries at the
>> moment.
> 
> "If you save someone's life, they will hate you forever."
> 
> A Chinese proverb, I think.
> 

Sounds like the American philosophy on healthcare