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From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Subject: Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing
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Le 01-03-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit :
> On 2025-03-01 5:52 p.m., Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 01-03-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit :
>>>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 08:44:52 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>> No, that's not true. If it were, every six-month release of Ubuntu would
>>>>> be different than the previous. Meanwhile, there is little difference
>>>>> between Ubuntu 14.04 and 24.04 except for the GUI and the kernel.
>>> Alright, what will the latest kernel change in a person's daily life?
>> 
>> Some improvements are more important than what LP/NV/DG/FR/whatever can
>> accomplish in his dreams. You have more and more thing in your kernel
>> without slowing down your computer. It's impressive by itself.
>
> So far, the updates to the kernel seem to mostly be about adding support 
> for hardware. As a result, it seems that the need to update it ends the 
> moment a kernel which properly supports every part of your computer is 
> released.

So far, you only look at the graphical interface believing that
everything new that comes with it is only a change in it. But it's not
because you don't know how it works that it's that simple. Systemd
wasn't in Ubuntu 14.04 and including it in Ubuntu changed a lot of
things in the global security, in the way the processes are managed, in
the way the login is done, in the way the hardware is managed. 

Systemd isn't the kernel and isn't the graphical interface and it was
brought by ubuntu 16.04, so when you say that nothing new happened
between Ubuntu 16.04 and 24.04 it's just plain wrong. And when you say
that nothing brought by the kernel changes anything in a user life it's
plain wrong at the same time because systemd was the first to use
cgroups and namespaces brought by the kernel. So without those changes
in the kernel, systemd wouldn't exist. And without systemd, the features
brought by the kernel wouldn't change a person's daily life.

And, for your information, the cgroups and namespaces are heavily used
by docker and kubernetes, so most of the biggest websites you are using
are working thanks to the changes in the kernel. You don't need
something as heavy as kubernetes to run a website in your basement, but
google and amazon who are facing millions of users every minute all over
the world really need it.

So, no, the changes brought by the kernel are not only related with new
drivers but it's too difficult for you to understand so you claim either
they don't exist or that they don't impact users experience. But that's
only plain wrong and you can brag about it as long as you want, as long
as you'll refuse to look really inside the technical work, your strong
opinion about it will be garbage. A modern system is way more complex
than your old vision.

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