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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!eu1.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=j9^PMG4:4baReJ8HHRm8_lU5[F2hIijDo7J470dMQQ7k^dBJd4@>=odCL4bKbP_QYgh]J;WohKJ`af@HSLgR[]oh7dKkgDfTEDliJPUY0^i>7f X-Complaints-To: support@frugalusenet.com Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 03:13:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: nice layout Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design References: <9q6stj1rvj150ierotsm7o1qo7a5l9khk4@4ax.com> <vrmk2l$799j$1@dont-email.me> <vrmuof$fthm$1@dont-email.me> <65eutjhpb8tjdpgqoabnj9g5s44kcslckg@4ax.com> <vrnsqm$19ete$2@dont-email.me> <67e0429f$3$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vhh0ujh1b3kfq6ficbif7d40770oa2ss89@4ax.com> <67e08ed7$0$15$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <6v41uj5ad4lhu19btjca8dpdcbuh8b8h7h@4ax.com> <vrqs7m$7u47$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US From: bitrex <user@example.net> In-Reply-To: <vrqs7m$7u47$2@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 132 Message-ID: <67e105ff$7$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1742800384 reader.netnews.com 22 127.0.0.1:42801 On 3/24/2025 1:57 AM, Bill Sloman wrote: > On 24/03/2025 10:08 am, john larkin wrote: >> On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 18:44:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >> >>> On 3/23/2025 1:37 PM, john larkin wrote: >>>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:19:27 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 3/22/2025 10:48 PM, Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>> On 23/03/2025 9:28 am, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman >>>>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>>>>>>> john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg? >>>>>>>>>> x=954&y=477&crop=1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible >>>>>>>>> to tell >>>>>>>>> whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to >>>>>>>>> decide, as >>>>>>>>> usual. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phil Hobbs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good. >>>>>>>> They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Better yet, they can't enforce them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make >>>>>>> the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest. >>>>>> >>>>>> John Larkin doesn't understand much, so it looks that way to him. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Most government employees are useless or worse. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you don't understand what they are doing. it can look that way. >>>>>> >>>>>> The anti-government propaganda which has formed John Larkin's >>>>>> thinking >>>>>> on the subject is paid for by US industry, which wants to be free >>>>>> make >>>>>> as much money as possible by organising itself into cartels and over- >>>>>> charging its customers. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/ >>>>>> >>>>>> The same author's also wrote >>>>>> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt >>>>>> >>>>>> which is about the climate change denial propaganda machine which has >>>>>> formed John Larkin's opinions about climate change. >>>>>> >>>>>>> But if we fire them, they will just join the existing mob of useless >>>>>>> drones, so maybe not much will change. >>>>>> >>>>>> If it did John Larkin would only notice if his favourite propaganda >>>>>> sources told him that it had. The US education system does seem to >>>>>> churn >>>>>> out a lot of gullible suckers, and Trump does seem to want to make >>>>>> sure >>>>>> that it doesn't get improved by any Federal government intervention. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Despite having a personal admiration and fascination for them Musk >>>>> sometimes forgets that a lot of people still don't like Hitler, >>>>> Mao, and >>>>> Stalin: >>>>> >>>>> <https://archive.is/SNNyw#selection-857.0-869.170> >>>> >>>> Musk does invent things, and is pretty hands-on. >>>> >>>> You guys should try designing some electronics. It's an activity that >>>> rubs your nose in reality. >>>> >>> >>> He seems to have given it up to be a politician/social media >>> "influencer", he can't have been that good... >> >> As the richest person on Earth, he must have done something right. > > He seems to have been better at buying up people who did know what they > were doing and needed more capital, that he was at inveting stuff for > himself. > > US venture capitalism is all about backing twenty companies and > recovering all the money invested from the one that was worth buying. > >> I don't think he's being paid for the DOGE thing. It's a volunteer >> public service. > > Like Carrie Nation. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Nation > > Musk's objections to bureaucracy seem to be just as intense as Carrie > Nation's dislike of alcohol, and even more poorly rationalised. > > “Let’s say Social Security didn’t send out your check this month. My mother-in-law, who is 94, wouldn’t call and complain. She just wouldn’t. She’d think something got messed up and will get it next month. A fraudster always makes the loudest noise, screaming and yelling and complaining.” - Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick (net worth $800 million) The super-rich oligarchs in the Trump administration really have no clue how the US poor (which describes a substantial fraction of their faithful) live or what or how they spend what little money they have, and have no interest in knowing. And a substantial fraction of their faithful seem to prefer it that way, I guess assuming the former know they have some mandate to support them regardless that it's very unclear they know they have, anymore..