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From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Subject: Re: Now I've done it
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Le 13-05-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit :
> On 2025-05-12, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 May 2025 18:29:23 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
>><pan$1ce4b$7540d318$75591b97$de435623@linux.rocks>:
>>
>>> On 12 May 2025 17:30:52 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Just try booting a live stick.  Take it around the block a few times.
>>>> Tell us what you think.
>>>> 
>>>> What are you afraid of?  God forbid you like Linux, and decide to join
>>>> The Revolution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Do not encourage the idiots.  It will eventually lead to the degradation
>>> of GNU/Linux.
>>
>> Not to worry -- there's no imagination in their posts, so not worth
>> reading.  Just stupid lames.
>>
>> However, I have been trying some Linux advocacy, which I notice you
>> seem to always be opposed to.  I think the gentleman from France
>> is right:  you try to make Linux look bad.
>>
> I agree with Farley. 

You shouldn't. He's always wrong, even when he's right by mistake.

> I have no issue at all with people who want to use
> Linux, or another Free Software OS like FreeBSD switching, if they wish,

That's a good start.

> but I do not like this idea that people should just switch, just
> because.

It's not only because. There is a direct link between liberty and
privacy. When people are using Microsoft and Apple, it's like when they
are driving a Tesla. They can give their private life to anyone, it's
their life and their freedom.

Now, when a drive put his Tesla in from of my home, he's spying on me
for the behalf of the AI of a neo-nazi. And that's the part I disagree.
He can give his own life to who he want, but when he start giving my
life, I care.

And with Microsoft and Apple, it's the same: when I send an email, the
content of the email of a Microsoft or Apple user is sent to these
societies. And I care. So when people switch to Linux or BSD or what
they want that provide privacy, I care.

> This obsession that some Linux users have, that "Aunt Tilly"
> must be able to use Linux too is harmful.

Why? If something is made possible for an unknowledged user, it means
it's easier for me. So it's far from harmful: it's great.

> The push to make it universal will result in silly decisions that WILL
> make Linux just another windows, thereby losing all advantage.

That's a well spread stupidity I hear since decades, but I've never
seen any real argument hinting to a basic ground about its reality.
There are more and more Linux users since decades and Linux never
started to be unusable for me. Of course, I find some DE/WM usage
insufferable. So what? I just avoid them and everything is fine.

> Chasing the biggest market share is self-defeating.  Ferarri do not stay
> up all night trying to make their cars outsell Hyundai and Toyota, they
> understand the niche they serve.  They don't tailor their cars for
> people who don't want to drive a Ferrari.

Nonsense. You should avoid car comparisons when they can't stay on the
road.

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