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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Back & Forth - 4tH I/O and You Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 11:24:27 +1000 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <683a4502b824b2dbf9bf092c2417d997afbd2241@i2pn2.org> References: <nnd$306ecdcd$714b9ebb@8c19de68479dc08d> <b2a4690cc4cdcb9e39310166d37070ab2a16d8b2@i2pn2.org> <nnd$68843db9$0f3297b6@f356aed0e515fe8b> <078ff0e4ae28526fe1c04fef6474326237ad928d@i2pn2.org> <nnd$460c410a$64092378@222354ccf17f511d> <83ce5ba4f2c1895995fe57aa8a10c4f1f50da9cc@i2pn2.org> <nnd$210dd7d0$7544d542@64ac6ad25abbe346> <a3c8d55396e1a48344a236bec05207ef64d14a72@i2pn2.org> <nnd$677b4eee$3815c1d3@f69c6d707a0f7f81> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 01:24:28 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1375433"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="XPw7UV90Iy7EOhY4YuUXhpdoEf5Vz7K+BsxA/Cx8bVc"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <nnd$677b4eee$3815c1d3@f69c6d707a0f7f81> Content-Language: en-GB X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 On 21/05/2025 9:16 pm, Hans Bezemer wrote: > ... > "AntiForth"? What does that even mean? If "un-Forth-like" is meant, everyone seems to have a different idea what that actually means. So - as you remark - is that even a valid question, in the sense that such question can be universally answered? Doesn't that very idea violate Feynman's "I'd rather have questions that cannot be answered than answers that cannot be questioned"? > > True, I tend to answer that one publicly over and over again- but certainly not universally. ;-) It's still "the gospel according to Hans Bezemer" - for those who haven't gotten the memo yet. In my case it was a library (application template?) and libraries in Forth are on the nose (Moore won't even re-use his own code). That was the reference. So maybe I shouldn't be surprised if users have stayed clear - even if I use it literally daily and wouldn't be without it. OTOH it might be a portability thing - users sticking with the standard I/O functions.