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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!cleanfeed3-a.proxad.net!nnrp2-1.free.fr!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> Subject: Re: Distros specifically designed for children References: <m96s6gFrc9cU1@mid.individual.net> <6831b9a7$0$8595$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <slrn1035np2.84f.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <6832fab9$0$11442$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <10102st$1j2ov$1@dont-email.me> <slrn1038j7q.6c4.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <10131ao$28rgm$1@dont-email.me> <slrn103b9mg.9o3.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <opycnZUOkfVAF6v1nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> <1016dr6$1e7od$1@news1.tnib.de> <1016gih$355q7$6@dont-email.me> <slrn103dv2r.q9d.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <1017d93$3aupc$2@dont-email.me> <1017efm$3b95f$1@dont-email.me> <1017o1h$39umi$1@dont-email.me> <1017rcg$3e1i6$1@dont-email.me> <10181qd$3er4t$1@dont-email.me> <1018iiq$3lujt$4@dont-email.me> <1018k1q$3hked$1@dont-email.me> <1018nhd$3mqbn$2@dont-email.me> <101a06j$3tf0k$4@dont-email.me> <m9roldF8ss8U4@mid.individual.net> <101bqup$d3l6$5@dont-email.me> <101dbhc$mkpm$9@dont-email.me> <683a6d94@news.ausics.net> Organization: Mulots' Killer User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.4-9 (Linux) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 31 May 2025 13:49:14 GMT Lines: 26 Message-ID: <683b08da$0$11458$426a74cc@news.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 May 2025 15:49:14 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 78.201.248.7 X-Trace: 1748699354 news-1.free.fr 11458 78.201.248.7:56044 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Le 31-05-2025, Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> a écrit : > > Heh, yeah but you can see exactly what the sysvinit scripts are > doing. No. You can believe you can see exactly what they are doing. But the script shell is a nightmare. Some are using sh other are using bash. And they rely heavily on environment variables which have different values depending on a lot of things, mostly at the starting time. So, no. Definitively no. If I agree systemd can is difficult to learn, I fully disagree saying sysvinit is simple and easy. > If you're rewriting every single daemon yourself then you probably > would get pretty good at it by the end. But if you're just > adding/debugging things once in a while like a normal person it's > a minefield compared to relatively self-descriptive (if you > understand shell scripting at least) init scripts. Once again I agree systemd is difficult. And there is no documentation to start from nothing to become a master: the documentation is spread everywhere and difficult to follow without loosing what you are looking for. But once again, I disagree saying that systinit is easy and good. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io