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From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
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Le 31-05-2025, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> a écrit :
> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>>Le 31-05-2025, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> a écrit :
>>>>On 31/05/2025 08:04, Marc Haber wrote:
>>>>> The title bar of a window is bigger than a taskbar icon. And, which
>>>>> one of the thirty konsole taskbar icons is the window I want gone for
>>>>> a second?
>>>>> 
>>>>Why do you have thirty?
>>>
>>> Because it it is somtimes necessary. You don't need to understand that
>>> unless you understand that there are valid usecases that look
>>> different from  your own.
>>
>>If his other questions/answers where useless patronizing criticisms,
>>I found that one legitimate. How can one understand other use cases if
>>one doesn't know abut them? So, trying to find other use cases looks
>>like a good way to improve one usage to me. Why do you avoid his only
>>good question? I'm not trying to know who you are: I just believe
>>knowing more use cases can be inspiring.
>
> Following a network conversation between two end systems over three
> routers and two middleboxes, tcpdump on two Interfaces each, three
> additional tcpdumps on interfaces just in case there is asymmetric
> routing, syslog on at least both sides, one firewall log, two tcpdumps
> with a different filter to see auxillary communication like DNS or
> RADIUS, probably the client software, added watch netstat, network
> counters on certain interface etc.

OK, I understand: you are monitoring a lot of things at the same time.
More a sysadmin usage than an average end-user usage.

> People usually don't understand what I see. I do, and usually can
> point to the system that is preventing communication.

That's understandable. You know what you launch and why when other
people could launch and look at different things. A personal way to
follow things is not usable by someone else.

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