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On 6/9/2025 10:14 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:16:09 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 19:15:57 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The Physics Behind the Spanish Blackout, Bjorn Lomborg, Wall Street
>>> Journal, 3 June 2025 issue, page A13.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is a gift link.  No paywall, but they will insist on trying to
>>> persuade you to subscribe.
>>>
>>> .<https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-physics-behind-the-spanish-blackout-solar-and-wind-power-unstable-grid-8be54b2a?st=VUVUMR&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink>
>>>
>>> Joe
>>
>> What's net zero is the line voltage. The issue is partly spinning
>> mass, but more important is gross gigawatts available on bad
>> afternoons.
>>
>> Another time bomb is that (cheap) solar panels and inverters and
>> batteries don't last as long as is assumed in payback calculations. In
>> 10 or 15 years there will be an enormous disposal problem. And lots of
>> leaky roofs.
> 
> Yep.  And given the likely end of the mandates and subsidies,
> replacement may prove expensive, making the business case less
> attractive.
> 
> Joe

I remember not too long ago when the climate-change deniers were 
claiming renewables could never be a significant part of a country's 
energy profile but I guess when they find out Spain was running 73% one 
afternoon they have to change their argument, lol.

Just goalpost-shifting forever.

Better question is will the fission nuclear industry ever give up trying 
to push their obsolete pointless technology that has been nothing but 
broken promises for 75 years. It's over give up, already.