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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us1.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=K@\oG?P@UZEi;4P:H19W_GU5[F2hIijDO7J470dMQQ7KAUDUcSnb?@I2M\=I?U;kWCPN]4=KWcMQDbfcUeInj@@AEP?S5IYaD:Mn_i[Z4@N@IF X-Complaints-To: support@frugalusenet.com Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 01:46:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: amazing gan fet Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design References: <m3i95kpbbfi75kq77jh9tle4du99mo3irn@4ax.com> <1033rkm$2rab$1@dont-email.me> <ni0b5kd7qsora8sild4bepdmasmhf8qpa4@4ax.com> <1034eju$7fia$1@dont-email.me> <e8pb5kt5d7fgrdcb1b4u650t950957bffn@4ax.com> <1037cmq$1auaf$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US From: bitrex <user@example.net> In-Reply-To: <1037cmq$1auaf$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 76 Message-ID: <6858ea05$3$5108$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1750657541 reader.netnews.com 5108 127.0.0.1:60545 On 6/21/2025 6:45 PM, Martin Brown wrote: > On 20/06/2025 23:51, john larkin wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 21:59:58 +0200, Jeroen Belleman >> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >> >>> On 6/20/25 18:01, john larkin wrote: >>>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:36:06 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs >>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote: >>>>>> https://www.infineon.com/dgdl/Infineon-GS-065-004-6-L-TR- >>>>>> DataSheet-v01_00-EN.pdf?fileId=8ac78c8c8e7ead30018ebd3e1aea2dc9 >>>>>> >>>>>> 700 volts, turns on to 10 amps with +5 on the gate, reverse transfer >>>>>> capacitance 0.3 pF, cheap. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, $1.64 in hundreds, pretty good for what you get. Analog >>>>> switch FOM >>>>> C_dg*R_on is about 1 ps, very impressive. >>>>> >>>>> I want its little brother, with that sort of speed and a g_m of 200 >>>>> mS. >>>>> Assuming it’s quiet, of course—apart from extrinsic effects it >>>>> should be >>>>> about sqrt(8/3 * kT/g_m) = 0.22 nV in 1 Hz. >>>> >>>> The smaller EPC parts are good, but lower volts and amps. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Phil Hobbs >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Phil Hobbs >>>> >>>> If I park the drain at +700 and drive the gate from 0 to +5 with a >>>> BUF602, I estimate a fall time of 1 ns. >>>> >>>> Pretty good slew rate. >>>> >>>> People are making such fun toys these days. >>>> >>>> We spent yesterday at the MTTS microwave show downtown. All those >>>> people are still stuck in the graph paper/slide >>>> rule/s-parameter/VNA/load-pull world. I talked to a bunch of them >>>> about using their parts in time domain, with Spice models, and got >>>> vacant stares. Their world is all sine waves and dBm's. >>>> >>>> I met one cool guy from a brit company, LA Techniques Ltd. They make >>>> VNAs and he grabbed my proto RF switch board and VNA'd it. And, >>>> amazingly, did a bunch of digital data eye diagrams. From the VNA >>>> data. >>>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/vsfe0bjm8a5ur7pp6fwms/ >>>> s21_eye_2gbps.png?rlkey=8p17rq5sttnd31mbyqttw2umj&raw=1 >>>> >>>> Hurts my head. >>> >>> 0.0750 ns/div. So clumsy. Haven't they ever heard of picoseconds? >>> >>> Jeroen Belleman >> >> ps means pounds sterling I think. > > gbp is the currency designation aka £ which is shift 3 on a UK keyboard. > $ is shift 4. > > I think some 1980s video game used "£" to represent its in-game currency which was called "Ludder" so I've thought of UK currency as being called "Ludder" ever since