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From: Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid>
Subject: Re: [Tin] Newer versions falsely show empty groups
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
> Urs Janssen <urs@buil.tin.org> wrote:
>> In Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>> Curiously it sometimes depends on the getart_limit setting. With
>>> "getart_limit=500" I can see articles in alt.bitcoins, but with
>>> "getart_limit=1000" it opens empty, with "*** No articles ***" at
>>> the bottom (normally the view stays on the group list while that
>>> message displays for genuinely-empty groups). Same with
>>> comp.infosystems.gemini, comp.os.misc, and various other
>>> low-traffic groups.
>> 
>> a positive getart_limit fetches the last "limit" articles (so you may
>> miss some unread articles if the limit is too small), a negative number
>> will fetch all unread arts plus the last "limit" read articles (for propper
>> threading). I would avoid positives numbers (as (auto)catchup may mark
>> unseen articles as read).
> 
> I gave this a try and those falsely-empty groups do show articles
> in 2.6.4 with "getart_limit=-500".

Also with "getart_limit=500" if I hit 'z' on the group in the group
list to mark all unread, then I see all the articles when I enter
it. If I read most of the early ones, most of those read articles
don't show next time I enter it, but the newer unread ones are
still there. So 2.6.4 is hiding read articles in those groups even
though I've got "show_only_unread_arts=OFF".

I'll get you the debug logs later when I've rebuilt the Tins.

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