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From: Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid>
Subject: Re: [Tin] Newer versions falsely show empty groups
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Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>> I gave this a try and those falsely-empty groups do show articles
>> in 2.6.4 with "getart_limit=-500". But it's not going to work for
>> me. I'm used to subscribing to busy groups with lots of idiots
>> arguing and only check them when I'm bored enough. If I check
>> aus.cars now with "getart_limit=-500" I download 3.9M, which is
>> worse than Tin 2.0.1 with "getart_limit=500" which downloads 2.3MB.
>> With "getart_limit=500" Tin 2.6.4 downloads 461KB - that's the
>> significant improvement that prompted me to upgrade in the first
>> place.
>> 
>> If I miss some posts because there are over 500 unread, I don't
>> care. It's just a pool of BS for me to tap into when there's
>> bugger all real discussion elsewhere on Usenet. But I need to
>> reduce how much internet data I use since it's become more
>> expensive for me.
> 
>   Urs will correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK, you can set per group/
> hierarchy/combination_of_groups ('scope') tinrc variables in
> .tin/attributes. The variables set in .tin/attributes will override
> those set in .tin/tinrc. See tin(5) for details.
> 
>  So you can set a negative getart_limit for sane groups and a postive
> one for "busy groups with lots of idiots".

Thanks. I have used that before but didn't think of it for this.
Since this issue seems to be a bug I might just stick with old Tin
until everything's working as intended though. Usually I keep up
with the sane groups fairly easily though so going over 500 unread
isn't a common issue in them (usually just when one's having a
moment of "temporary insanity", usually as a consequence of
cross-posting).

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