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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 07:24:36 +0000 Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <vkjmdg$30kff$1@dont-email.me> <gJScP.13176$XfF8.10959@fx04.iad> <FEYcP.131275$aTp4.70494@fx09.iad> <35a09fa5-08b1-8121-51c7-28d3aac1cd0f@example.net> <CaidP.24348$DPp5.20979@fx01.iad> <3002e7b9-095e-c292-1202-b151f7776587@example.net> <ltmbcmFjcgpU1@mid.individual.net> <ba6263f8-1e7f-5eb1-ae06-757f2ed7a018@example.net> <lto9qbFso18U3@mid.individual.net> <vl8hh0$3se9g$4@dont-email.me> <ltr3kfFc8e1U1@mid.individual.net> <4cc6649f-8824-58f5-3244-46bdc60505dd@example.net> <lts1jqFghgcU5@mid.individual.net> <b171f7ef-31d5-4932-7629-f20c42c0f521@example.net> <ltu8cbFr6goU5@mid.individual.net> <168bbd76-539a-94fb-272d-276bbb4f14a0@example.net> <K7-cnaiHyN-KOOH6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vlj14t$25740$7@dont-email.me> <vlj9s4$27gcm$1@dont-email.me> <vljsvg$2b5e8$1@dont-email.me> <vlmgev$2tg4b$1@dont-email.me> <lu8ksjFj3pqU2@mid.individual.net> <sNScnXC_zor0weL6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> <lu97fbFlqohU1@mid.individual.net> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 02:24:36 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <lu97fbFlqohU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <6WSdnYdgpc0p5OL6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 48 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-GpgyXumlk+WbqaAGQDgnfhJI5+WOhlnj6me5CzP6Y3XjjaqEf5/IEboTytLirPpMLxwzt9k8grZwWPv!tV1t14lMkJEWUzibNQFDVEiyQftm8SCykuopkowhUkfQ/dsU5EzOr8lmwzUUmqNgIb6sEghwB0tk!HgAj6QBc26xUJhiiq+gW X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4041 On 1/9/25 1:08 AM, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 00:19:36 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > >> The Ottomans failed to take >> Europe (thank Vlad The Impaler) ... but it seems Europe has completed >> their goal. > > You might want to thank the people at Leponto, the iege of Vienna, and the > Battle of Vienna too. The Ottomans didn't stop trying until 1683. Vlad was > only a warm up. Vlad literally gave 'em hell-on-earth though ! The little dragon had a big BITE :-) But yea, the Ottomans and near-heirs DID keep trying for awhile. But now EU govts have given them their victory. The Mongols kinda ruined the 'Islamic Empire' long back in the 1200s. The all-in-all upswing of power and knowledge was interrupted and the various areas kinda went their own ways, sometimes in combat. Some of the Mongols WERE converted to Islam though. Greatest sin of The Horde ... burning all the books in Baghdad and killing all the scholars. This was as much of a loss as the library at Alexandria going up in flames. Still wonder if there are copies hidden carefully away somewhere ..... Like recently seen with 'ISIS', fanatics often want to erase history - "Nothing before Islam and ourselves". The NAZIs and USSR extensively re-wrote/re-phrased history to their own advantage. Sometimes it's more than mere "revisionism" but a really vicious and intensive effort to invent a new past for political/religious reasons. The priests with the Conquistadors made considerable efforts to erase old American religions as well. Lucky some of that remained buried in the jungles where they couldn't smash it all. If you want odd-ish religions, note the Slavic mythology ... it was clearly influenced by Vedic/Hindu elements despite being so far away. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_paganism