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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <6WUI_7naRSy-LU1S2Cp0-oKjjaw@jntp> JNTP-Route: nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Relativity is a pseudoscience II. The Hafele-Keating HOAX, References: <dad338831baa98f3eb1ca50452fd9401@www.novabbs.com> <9555d4a308c249eeef996b2957902fc7@www.novabbs.com> <vc7ehc$2bg7g$1@dont-email.me> <3d19aab5cf2bc8c14868ced3d0dda88c@www.novabbs.com> <02841f8e2b10ab216f462f52165399c1@www.novabbs.com> <d2fe4505066151ec83cc8e06b8def6f4@www.novabbs.com> <XbC5Qu49_RUWjjFOyZdz8vEqTRo@jntp> <w19rV2lulodsexk_EJwR8Y6actc@jntp> <KeMng-htXJYDukgVPkyAXjMEQpI@jntp> <pW0qpfhJOU9Jm-_-rywlUddJvKo@jntp> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: BQT5eK3IP46Qj8gSKB2wg-BoLTM JNTP-ThreadID: dad338831baa98f3eb1ca50452fd9401@www.novabbs.com JNTP-ReferenceUserID: 190@nemoweb.net JNTP-Uri: https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=6WUI_7naRSy-LU1S2Cp0-oKjjaw@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/1.0 JNTP-OriginServer: nemoweb.net Date: Tue, 17 Sep 24 22:13:07 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/115.0 Injection-Info: nemoweb.net; posting-host="88d8e3fc77776d6bcc186faa1aefc7625bd3eae9"; logging-data="2024-09-17T22:13:07Z/9026261"; posting-account="190@nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Python <python@not-formail.invalid> Bytes: 3474 Lines: 49 Le 17/09/2024 à 23:54, Python a écrit : > Le 17/09/2024 à 22:52, Richard Hachel a écrit : >> Le 17/09/2024 à 21:58, Python a écrit : >> >>>> What is crazier than physicists who, telling us, that there is a contraction of >>>> distances, that is to say that in Stella's frame of reference (Langevin) the distance >>>> traveled on Stella's return is not 12 ly, but 7.2 ly. >>>> >>>> Except that her proper time is 9 years. Which they admit. >>>> >>>> Except that it is fixed in its frame of reference, and that it observes the >>>> earth approaching it with an apparent speed of 4c. >>>> >>>> Except that the fact of observing for 9 years a body moving with an apparent >>>> speed of a speed of 4c, has never made that x = Vapp.tau = 7.2 al. >>>> >>>> What to answer to Doctor Hachel? Nothing. >> >> Je cite Python : >> >> >>> <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?KeMng-htXJYDukgVPkyAXjMEQpI@jntp/Data.Media:1> >> >>> This is definitely not "nothing" :-) >> >> IL faudrait quand même que certains posteurs cessent de dire n'importe quoi. >> >> Cela devient lassant. >> >> R.H. > > Check by yourself. You'll notice that I'm right :-) As expressed in the context that Dr. Lengrand didn't quote my article: when both events are the starting/ending ones of a *full* inertial segment the condition is not satisfied for the *full* return segment. On the other hand this condition *is true* for any "small enough" segment either on both part of the round-trip. Again, this is explicitely written. I used to wonder if Hachel/Lengrand really missed the point, but given how systematically he is ignoring *that very point* I started to wonder if he's not just a fucking hypocrite. I think he is :-P Ignoring basic geometry is not a solution Richard...