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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 11:32:47 -0700 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <6bs5ujpi51u3iig81n65r3oqqb611gitkt@4ax.com> References: <vrru3v$152e3$3@dont-email.me> <vrrvqs$1816i$1@dont-email.me> <vrs3qh$19skh$3@dont-email.me> <4DnEP.1232536$FVcd.370683@fx10.iad> <vrubn2$3efo8$1@dont-email.me> <fqAEP.93396$W1a6.6796@fx04.iad> <5ln5ujt214c0qg58sq70hmp4fgghkcja5r@4ax.com> <vruopf$3ptni$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net pUGfqCoe7GHg7Adp6zEhFQsesVhtynBRUZCM/5Vbowgjvx4Rxy Cancel-Lock: sha1:cUD6xC8vzGcp778/v9O+CsCwRV8= sha256:QWfFsCOP/CF/baihZy8UiWzUyfYmL8wHRRpafYzYwmI= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 2438 On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 12:22:55 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >A significant amount of sewing time for a $40 retail product. It's not too difficult to make cycling gloves. However, it does require some practice and experience. The problem is that no part of the glove will lie flat on the sewing machine bed plate. That means that fixtures, jigs, attachments and preforms don't work well. I can easily find automated glove making machinery, but they're all for blow molded rubber or for knitted gloves. The leather palm and knitted back of the typical bicycle glove do not lend themselves to automation. The leather palm can be preformed, but that creates a problem for store display and packaging, which are best done flat. <https://www.google.com/search?q=automated%20glove%20making&udm=2> For me, the problem was making the stitched leather seams inside the glove reasonably comfortable. Some of the gloves I've seen don't even bother with this and simply leave a lumpy seam inside the glove. I tried Latex glue instead of stiching, but found that the glue was messy, aged badly and would not remain very flexible. When all else is likely to fail, machine sewing the gloves, without automation, is probably best. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558