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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:45:48 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <6d0683c816f5f63b3a17c8a52e9b691eecc143a8@i2pn2.org> References: <vhdd32$oq0l$1@dont-email.me> <GcudnQRbD7HyPNv6nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <vi72fe$dbk$1@dont-email.me> <vi76pj$106j$2@dont-email.me> <db87472521a4e553e992c6933a235dec24fb002f@i2pn2.org> <vi8g7t$85ij$1@dont-email.me> <ee397fde844b6e8f2266885eb1b657ad4da768f8@i2pn2.org> <via50f$ju6v$1@dont-email.me> <349430b1223591beb2ebea42b5f3a9e64ea8d795@i2pn2.org> <via6qe$ju6v$5@dont-email.me> <f4f759fcc2f0b701a91e38062c25d16534e470af@i2pn2.org> <via804$kfnn$1@dont-email.me> <39d1fae0d0e03ceb82a6a7c722581d5e84d4998f@i2pn2.org> <via9kk$kpf2$1@dont-email.me> <6f73ca664f7017ea34651a485a4bd3602e9cbe57@i2pn2.org> <vilrih$3n2q7$2@dont-email.me> <b961b7e79a85fcb3bbd058930fef41e582f7acdd@i2pn2.org> <vio31i$dg23$1@dont-email.me> <4ccc2cbecfd0e6befd031ed394f1262edd021822@i2pn2.org> <viposd$u16a$1@dont-email.me> <dd3385b7f379281e5d476701f96e30538ea85802@i2pn2.org> <viqua6$16uvh$1@dont-email.me> <3d80e95768bf6260168865530aaad3591aa03fda@i2pn2.org> <vir0c7$17d36$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:45:48 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1321043"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: <vir0c7$17d36$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4084 Lines: 61 On 12/4/24 8:41 PM, olcott wrote: > On 12/4/2024 7:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 12/4/24 8:06 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 12/4/2024 6:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 12/4/24 9:27 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 12/3/2024 5:39 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 12/3/24 6:08 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 12/3/2024 3:03 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>> Am Mon, 02 Dec 2024 20:48:49 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 1:48 PM, joes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You said: >>>>>>>>> >>> HHH can't simulate itself. >>>>>>>>> That is WRONG !!! >>>>>>>>> HHH DOES EMULATE ITSELF PROVING THAT IT CAN EMULATE ITSELF. >>>>>>>> We know that HHH halts. It doesn't simulate itself halting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please try and explain how you are not dishonest what you >>>>>>> try to change the subject from my rebuttal of your statement: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> HHH can't simulate itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD proves >>>>>>> THAT IT CAN DO THIS. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But only if your think that wrong answer can be right. >>>>> >>>>> I did not mention anything about answers my entire >>>>> scope is that HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD >>>>> thus conclusively proving that HHH can emulated itself >>>>> emulating DDD. >>>>> >>>>> Whenever you go out-of-scope like this it surely >>>>> seems dishonest to me. >>>>> >>>> >>>> But the behaivor that HHH shows that it has *IS* an "answer", >>> >>> DDD emulated by any HHH according to the semantics of >>> the x86 language cannot possibly reach its "ret" instruction >>> whether HHH aborts this emulation after N steps or never aborts. >>> >>> >> >> Just a nonsense sentence, since HHH can't emulate HHH as it isn't >> given it, > > Why do you have to keep fucking lying about this? > I could die on the operating table in two weeks! > What's the lie? Can you point to what I say that is wrong, and a reliable reference that show it? All you have is your own lies to call it a lie. And yes, you might die in two weeks, and the only thing you will have left behind is all your lies.