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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Cycling editorial
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:10:32 -0400
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On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 13:56:29 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 4/12/2024 1:17 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 17:43:47 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 14:34:56 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 12:18:13 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:49:03 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/11/2024 5:57 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Whatever you like sucks. The bike I ride is best"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://bikerumor.com/op-ed-bike-industry-toxic-racing-culture/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I found that needlessly divisive. YMMV.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't see it as divisive. It's main point seems to be that we should
>>>>>>>>>> accept various styles of bicycling, and that not everyone wants to be a
>>>>>>>>>> racer. Other details are that non-racers should be able to have
>>>>>>>>>> equipment that functions well and clothing that's comfortable for
>>>>>>>>>> riding. That's fine with me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ish most brands road bikes are split into race and endurance bikes very few
>>>>>>>>> people should be riding race bikes arguably. But it?s often not that clear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It?s certainly true that performance clothing at least for roadies is
>>>>>>>>> intended for a type of body ie someone slim, a look around a bike club says
>>>>>>>>> that?s not the body type of all even performance minded folks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's difference between "performance" clothes and non-performance
>>>>>>>> clothes?  The only specific bicycling items I've ever worn are SPD
>>>>>>>> shoes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Materials and fit, ie Lycra or similar that has some stretch and copes with
>>>>>>> sweat, I like the ?technical? t shirts over traditional tops, a normal
>>>>>>> cotton t shirt would get very soggy and remain so, and probably expose my
>>>>>>> back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I never wear cotton when I ride, and yet I never wear bicyle jerseys
>>>>>> or bottoms, either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And with MTB/gravel riding do get wear from well grit and wet, and will
>>>>>>> chew though non cycling shorts quite quickly, I?d assume recumbents and
>>>>>>> road would change some of this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can get the same fit and material at venders not associated with
>>>>>> bicycling. I don't like advertising manufacturers, so I reject any
>>>>>> products that do that. I really like my Catrike but I've removed the
>>>>>> Catrike stickers.
>>>>>
>>>>> For a recumbent that?s a less stretched position, ie will not need a
>>>>> cyclist cut, nor do you need to have logos plastered all over, that?s more
>>>>> of a older roadie thing ie folks who where cycling in the 80/90?s in
>>>>> general it?s fairly muted.
>>>>
>>>> I rode two wheelers for longer than I've ridden a recumbent.
>>>>
>>>>> MTB baggies are less restrictive than walking shorts, and have reinforced
>>>>> areas, again riding on tarmac and with a recumbent that?s not needed.
>>>>
>>>> The only differences I see are that MTB baggies have butt pads, that
>>>> and they cost a lot more.
>>>
>>> Most folks will use padded Lycra shorts or tights under the Baggies which
>>> will be more flexible and have reinforced areas and made with robust and
>>> fast drying materials.
>> 
>> I bought a pair of padded pants a long time ago when I was riding my
>> old Giant. They didn't help.
>> 
>>> I have experimented with non cycling shorts etc on the commute and even
>>> there they got worn though fairly rapidly, ie few months.
>>>
>>> Though have discovered MTB trousers that look like walking trousers or
>>> similar so work well on and off the bike for work.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <SNIP>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>
>Padding in cycling shorts mostly helps by not having a 
>central seam (although some models are quite thick with 
>padding). They will not cover for riding position problems 
>or medical anomalies but are generally more comfortable than 
>seamed shorts to most riders.
>
>Personally, my most comfortable riding shorts (one each of 
>two brands) have no pad, just a thin chamois over lycra. YMMV.
>
>I admit I am inexperienced with recumbents, so you're on 
>your own there. I suspect cycling shorts would be pointless.

My experience with padded pants were with a two wheeler. Padded pants
would be silly on a recumbent. I do have some issues with chafing, but
involves body parts interacting with clothing, not the seat.