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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John B. <jbslocomb@fictitious.site> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: More loosening of gun restrictions Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2025 18:02:34 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 74 Message-ID: <6de44k54vauo9nbufvm2aa7iu6ahbrpe57@4ax.com> References: <fql34kl6qqdos45jef2f8fmb37rf19mm95@4ax.com> <101smdf$1mfi9$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2025 03:20:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5740f7a8c511d83fdb9eca0a4705a23e"; logging-data="1975282"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19/tQ3KAV+enLv6ngEe51ar5nf85gudDSQ=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.10.32.1212 Cancel-Lock: sha1:rvK5nIjkymX7k97WW9t9XqM9lzk= On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 13:07:43 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >On 6/5/2025 12:47 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >> WILMINGTON, N.C. (WECT) - A bill that would make it easier to conceal >> carry a gun in North Carolina has moved one step closer to becoming >> law in the General Assembly. >> >> Senate Bill 50, which has already passed the state senate, passed a >> House committee on Tuesday. The legislation, if it becomes law, would >> allow almost anybody over the age of 18 in North Carolina to conceal >> carry without a permit. >> >> Currently, North Carolina gun owners need to be at least 21 years old, >> pass a background check and complete a gun safety class to get a >> concealed carry permit. The new law would only require gun owners to >> be over 18, a U.S. citizen and be legally allowed to have a firearm. >> >> Proponents of the legislation say it’s an important step for 2nd >> Amendment rights, with more guns in good hands leading to safer >> communities. Critics, on the other hand, say it would lead to more >> crime, specifically more gun-related deaths. >> >> “More guns equates to more injuries and more accidents and bad >> behavior and tragic events,” said Rep. Deb Butler (D-New Hanover). “It >> just does.” >> >> “They’re predicting disaster now that we’re passing a permitless carry >> bill, but I can assure them that won’t happen,” said Paul Valone, the >> president of Grass Roots North Carolina, a gun rights organization. >> >> Legislators heard from groups on both sides of the issue, including >> Grass Roots, before Tuesday’s vote. The organization said gun owners >> shouldn’t need a “permission slip” from the government to conceal >> carry, and believe the law would make the state safer. >> >> Anne Enberg, a volunteer with Moms Demand Action, pushed lawmakers to >> vote against the legislation, which she considers dangerous. Enberg >> pointed to Sunday’s mass shooting outside of Charlotte as an example >> of why more gun control – not less – is needed. >> >> “We should be looking for laws that people are asking for and are >> making our community safer,” she said. “This bill doesn’t check either >> box.” >> >> The bill still needs to pass the state house, where Republicans hold a >> majority. Democratic Governor Josh Stein, however, indicated on >> Tuesday that he would veto the legislation if it makes it to his desk. >> Republicans would then have to veto the bill to turn it into law. >> >> >> https://www.wect.com/2025/06/04/legislation-loosen-concealed-carry-law-nc-advances-general-assembly/ >> >> -- >> C'est bon >> Soloman > >Different States, different cultures. > >https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/politics/2025/06/03/ri-assault-weapons-ban-heads-to-key-vote-what-comes-next/84008252007/ > >https://www.bostonherald.com/2025/05/28/bay-state-gun-rights-advocates-air-grievances-during-surreal-hearing/ > >https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/gun-owners-in-illinois-face-10k-fine-if-weapon-is-stolen-and-used-in-a-crime/ A great idea! But why limit it to just guns? After all there are more then a million cars stolen annually that the new law would protect which might limit the current 42,795 total motor vehicle fatalities. (which is about double the firearm homilies) -- cheers, John B.