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From: mpsilvertone@yahoo.com (HarryLime)
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Subject: Re: The Return of Michael Monkey
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:43:21 +0000
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:55:06 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:55:28 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 14:29:07 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
>> "HarryLime" wrote:
>>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 18:01:42 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:56:41 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
>>>> "HarryLime" wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:42:27 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>> MummyChunk wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, why do you lie and misrepresent so much, monkey boy Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pendragon?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just curious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem with you is that you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael
>>>>>> Pendragon.
>>>>>
>>>>> That simply isn't true
>>>>
>>>> Of course I don't expect you to admit it, Pendragon.
>>>
>>> You know the rules, Donkey: PPSFU (Post Proof or Shut the Fuck Up).
>>>
>>> Any so-called "misrepresentation" you can find was based on one of
>>> *your* posts.
>>
>> Oh, so HarryLiar wants proof? Let's look at his next paragraph:
>>
>>> I only know you from what you post here, Donkey.  If you write a poem
>>> based on a "romantic interlude" where you grope a woman you barely knew,
>>> then I'm going to say that you sexually assaulted her (because according
>>> to your poem, that's exactly what you did).
>>
>> Harry Liar reposted an "edited" poem Will had written over 40 years ago
>> about a dream he'd had. You reposted part of the poem, snipping the line
>> about it being a dream, to falsely accuse him of sexual assault.
>>
>> Here's the thread, so readers can see for themselves:
>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=15788&group=rec.arts.poems#15788
>
> Thanks, George.
>
> I see that Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon is bringing his attacks on
> me here, spreading his lies and misrepresentations.
>
> Never mind the Harry Lime bullocks, here's the original unedited version
> so the readers can decide for
> themselves:
>
> ***
>
>>>>>>> I Met A Girl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I met a girl
>>>>>>> she came from California.
>>>>>>> It was in a dream
>>>>>>> we knew each other instantly.
>>>>>>> She was a little freckled girl
>>>>>>> from out of
>>>>>>> my high school past.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And she looked up at me
>>>>>>> and talked real spacey.
>>>>>>> I've forgotten her name
>>>>>>> though she told it to me twice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We talked
>>>>>>> a really detached situation.
>>>>>>> She said years ago
>>>>>>> I was so shy
>>>>>>> she thought I was gay.
>>>>>>> At this point I kissed her
>>>>>>> and put my finger to her hole.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And she looked up at me
>>>>>>> and talked real spacey.
>>>>>>> I have forgotten her name
>>>>>>> though she told it to me twice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know why it was
>>>>>>> that I would think of her.
>>>>>>> I made a couple of puns
>>>>>>> about her name that made me blush.
>>>>>>> But her softness in tone
>>>>>>> made me feel all right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All I want to do
>>>>>>> is get in contact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Will Dockery / May 8 1982
>
> ***
>
> Again, this poem was written in 1982, during my time in the Atlanta
> Georgia New Wave punk rock scene, while also influenced by the earlier
> Beatnik poets
> I was reading at the time, such as Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and
> Charles Bukowski among others.
>
> Both styles employed a sort of crude swagger in the tone and content
> which I also used in many of my poems.
>
> Again, all apologies to those offended.
>
> HTH and HAND, again.
>
> 😏

And again, the poem is your attempt to recast what can only be seen as
an act of  sexual assault (at least insofar as it's depicted in your
poem) as a "romantic interlude" from you past.

Any apologies should be offered without qualification.

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