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From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid>
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Subject: Re: "The 25 Most Outlandish Sci-Fi Films of All Time"
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2024 08:59:18 -0700
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 16:16:59 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 9/4/2024 12:42 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 14:52:30 +0000, Lenona <lenona321@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> I tried to find a site that has all of this on one page, but I =
couldn't.
>>>
>>> =
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/the-25-most-outlandish-sci-fi-films=
-of-all-time/ss-AA1oRya3?ocid=3Due07dhp
>>>
>>> I've only heard of ten of these, and of those, I only saw six.
>>>
>>> But then, I haven't paid much attention to those sci-fi movies from =
THIS
>>> century.
>>=20
>> I didn't count how many of them I have seen; most of those are
>> well-known, but /Upstream Color/ may not be.
>>=20
>> The /Brazil/ image was omitted in the "Director's Cut" because Gilliam
>> no longer understood it. This may explain /The Zero Theorem/, whose
>> ending was because he thought his audience would expect something like
>> that. (Both assertions are from my memory of documentaries on the
>> DVDs, and can safely be taken with a large grain of salt).
>
>Whether that image was in the Dirctors cut or not didn't change much,
>but the ending was drastically different, much as the original Blade
>Runner was modified.

Actually, I think that one's still in there. The one where her face is
wrapped in plastic to show Our Hero what his mother will look like
after her operation and his reaction was cut.=20

It was in the version released in America to theaters and VHS. But
that had the same ending as the Director's cut. The network TV
version, however, substituted a "happy" ending for the Real Deal.

The Director's Version is the one on the original 3-disk Criterion
DVD, with the film on one side of one disk but with a very nasty layer
change. IIRC, this was the Laserdisc set with the two film discs on
one side of the DVD. My on-one-side DVD of /Into the Woods/ (there was
a flippie version I avoided) had the same sort of layer change,
probably because it was the two sides of the flippie put on one side.
The DVD I have of /Bridge on the River Kwai/ did this /deliberately/,
claiming it saved time with starting the chapters on the second layer.

As I understand it, each layer on these discs is a completely separate
file [1], forcing the player to seek the start of the second layer
instead of the more normal method, which apparently contains a single
file spread over the two layers, avoiding (or minimizing) the seek.

One way to tell is to see if each layer has it's own "clock": that is,
if the DVD player's display shows each having its own length or if it
shows the length of the entire film.

Note that these are are very old DVDs and may have been superceded by
newer ones done the usual way. Also, how bad the layer change is
depends on how seeking works for the player/drive in use.

[1] Actually, I'm not sure "file" is the quite the word to use.
"Program", as a technical term including, say, trailers and other
features (special or ordinary), might be better.
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"