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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Job Offer
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 18:09:26 -0400
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:53:09 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 3/19/2025 4:41 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:17:17 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3/19/2025 4:16 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 3/19/2025 4:10 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:06:44 -0500, AMuzi
>>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/19/2025 4:03 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 15:38:24 -0500, AMuzi
>>>>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/19/2025 3:36 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 13:45:15 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 05:11:53 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:00:00 +0700, John B.
>>>>>>>>>>> <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 04:14:24 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 07:50:31 +0700, John B.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 18:38:47 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 17:22:05 -0500, AMuzi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 4:55 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 4:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 2:54 PM, Shadow wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         PS Not all monarchies are "bad" per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> se. As long as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steal too much and actually care for their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "subjects".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         []'s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But with every system, there are degrees of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plunder, death
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and destruction. Some pursue mass murder,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> horrible, others merely awful, some bearable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as always, I'll ask: So what's the solution?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heh heh heh read some Marx! or any political
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosopher.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The dialectic is eternal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's perpetual conflict. Inherent to all human
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In some cases civil and rhetorical, in others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a sword,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knout, secret police or what have you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't discount 'civil and rhetorical'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pernicious and severe. Per Alphonse Capone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You can steal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more with a pen than a gun."  The modern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applications of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that usually start with, "For the children...".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No matter what kind of government, there will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least one person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who wants to take control of everybody else...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and believes it's only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right and proper that he does so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never mind governments... in any group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frankie???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a self esteem thing. When people take
>>>>>>>>>>>>> directions from someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with low esteem it makes them feel important. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter if the directions are forced on them as in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> voluntary as in social groups.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think leaders are generally people with low
>>>>>>>>>>>>> esteem who need
>>>>>>>>>>>>> followers to make them feel important.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not, "I'm important so I will lead you." It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more likely, "I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to feel important, so follow me."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I can't agree with you, at least in all
>>>>>>>>>>>> circumstances.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not many senior people in the military are weak
>>>>>>>>>>>> kneaded, quite simply
>>>>>>>>>>>> because their responsibilities are already mapped
>>>>>>>>>>>> out before hey get
>>>>>>>>>>>> the job."I appoint you as in charge of aircraft
>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance" and "if
>>>>>>>>>>>> the airplanes don't fly as scheduled you lose your
>>>>>>>>>>>> job" while probably
>>>>>>>>>>>> not spoken is understood by both parties.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Leaders" in every category are forever striving to
>>>>>>>>>>> have more power
>>>>>>>>>>> and get more control. I know that they believe they
>>>>>>>>>>> are "serving," but
>>>>>>>>>>> that's a bullshit attempt to justify their need to
>>>>>>>>>>> feel important.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>      Some leaders are different. Just like people are
>>>>>>>>>> different.
>>>>>>>>>> One of the first things you learn in medicine.
>>>>>>>>>>      Study "Pepe" Mujica and Luiz Inacio Lula da
>>>>>>>>>> Silva. They are as
>>>>>>>>>> poor today as they were when they took office......
>>>>>>>>>>      Mujica retired last year, and wants to spend the
>>>>>>>>>> rest of his
>>>>>>>>>> life on his farm. Lula retired in 2010 intending to
>>>>>>>>>> spend his last
>>>>>>>>>> days with his family, and only came back to fight the
>>>>>>>>>> fascists here in
>>>>>>>>>> Brazil.
>>>>>>>>>>      Even Jesus, who I believe existed (but as a
>>>>>>>>>> politician not a
>>>>>>>>>> character in a  rather badly written fairy tale) was
>>>>>>>>>> never a
>>>>>>>>>> power/money/control grabber. And he is still a
>>>>>>>>>> "Leader" today. LOL.
>>>>>>>>>>      []'s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, from what I read he seemed like an allright kind
>>>>>>>>> of guy. Too bad
>>>>>>>>> that so many people call him by the wrong name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>>>>>> Soloman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Allah?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I read somewhere that his name started with "y," but I'm
>>>>>>> pretty sure
>>>>>>> they didn't have the English alphabet then. Being a
>>>>>>> respect person, I
>>>>>>> always reffered to him as Mr. Christ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>>>> Soloman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're maybe thinking YWH, whose name shall not be spoken.
>>>>>> Oh, and The Christ is an honorific not a name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I knew that. I was teasing. I do that sometimes.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>> Soloman
>>>>
>>>> I know nothing of Aramaic but in Latin there's no J (or K,
>>>> U, W, Y) so maybe IVSUS in pre-English orthography.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oops IESVS
>> 
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