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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <JL@gct.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 07:23:39 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 91 Message-ID: <6pmpijtkajbkj56h714ldothonrflfdqra@4ax.com> References: <vg9h7b$277o$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vg9pnu$ekhh$1@solani.org> <vgass6$28u2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vgccvm$6jk3$1@solani.org> <vgdffb$ibt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vgf4jc$7vn5$1@solani.org> <vgg8j4$k3i$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vghks5$9ces$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 16:23:40 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2f61bd8162a2f47df7aaab03eec8ff48"; logging-data="2853247"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ASLEI59mAp1XHTUaMuvnZ" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:PmK6NfGrzgaLe/XAas2AmTeYDEI= Bytes: 5507 On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 05:57:24 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote: >On a sunny day (Wed, 6 Nov 2024 12:21:39 -0500) it happened "Edward Rawde" ><invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in ><vgg8j4$k3i$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>: > >>"Jan Panteltje" <alien@comet.invalid> wrote in message news:vgf4jc$7vn5$1@solani.org... >>> On a sunny day (Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:00:42 -0500) it happened "Edward Rawde" >>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in >>> <vgdffb$ibt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>: >>> >>>>"Jan Panteltje" <alien@comet.invalid> wrote in message news:vgccvm$6jk3$1@solani.org... >>>>> On a sunny day (Mon, 4 Nov 2024 11:31:01 -0500) it happened "Edward Rawde" >>>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in >>>>> <vgass6$28u2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>: >>>>> >>>>>>"Jan Panteltje" <alien@comet.invalid> wrote in message news:vg9pnu$ekhh$1@solani.org... >>>>>>> On a sunny day (Sun, 3 Nov 2024 23:06:04 -0500) it happened "Edward Rawde" >>>>>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>> <vg9h7b$277o$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Simulation isn't fast but if you let it complete and do an FFT on the last 30 seconds, it's 80dB down at all unwanted >>>>>>>>harmonics. >>>>>>>>There do however seem to be unwanted sidebands close in either side of 1KHz >>>>>>>>Any suggestions for improvement? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Publish a circuit diagram. >>>>>>> Not that hard to make ! >>>>>> >>>>>>If you mean ASCII art, no thanks in the case of this circuit. >>>>> >>>>> Easy to make a screen shot of your spice circuit and upload it one of those free image publication sites >>>>> >>>>> You do not seriously expect readers to start ancient peesees and use millisoft widows emulators to run tea spices >>>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/scope_tv/diagram.jpg >>>>> https://panteltje.nl/pub/swr_bridge_hl_lt_spice.gif >>>>> >>>> >>>>These appear to be LTSpice, so why can't you use it to view my circuits? >>> >>> As I pointed out, am reading Usenet on a Raspbeery Pi4 8GB >>> Does everything here from spectrum analyzing to audio to video play >>> Why boot up an acient peesee to start a millisoft widows emulator >>> to look up some 80 deebee thingy that likely never has a practical use? >> >>Well, Bessel came up with his functions long before FM broadcasting. Ok you can use Carson's rule but Wikipedia says: >>"In 1922 he published a mathematical treatment of frequency modulation (FM), which introduced the Carson bandwidth rule." >>Which pre dates FM broadcasting. >> >>While designing my circuit I found this document very useful: >>https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Field+Effect+Transistor+as+a+Voltage+Controlled+Resistor >>It doesn't mention doing anything in a lab. >> >>> >>> >>>>In any case if you can't simulate my circuits you won't be able to appreciate how brilliant a designer I am like Bill does. >>> >>> 80 deebee makes me wonder if you not better spend your time on making e-bikes from vipes... >>> com/gadgets/2024/11/disposable-vapes-from-a-music-festival-can-power-a-beefy-e-bike-20-miles/ >>> >>> And elteasprites simu is not worth a thing, reality is different from the models used >> >>Reality is always different from models because models can never have everything that reality has. >>But this does not mean that models aren't useful. >>Simulation can do a lot to tell you you're going in the right direction. >>This can save a lot of time when you get to do it in reality. >> >>> I stopped using it long ago (years) >>> My stuff works. >> >>My sync separators worked too, back when I needed one. >>They weren't quite like yours, I think I got an idea from Video Handbook by someone, I forget who. >> >>> >>> ElTeaSprites is a bit like Hollowwood movies. >>> Burb .. I mean Kirk.. well >>> I do not question your genius, >> >>Well you should. >>Anyone who claims to be a genius might as well be telling you that they aren't. >> >>Just one more thing. >>Writing PC as peesee is fine if you're composing something like this: >>https://www.google.com/search?q=I+halve+a+spelling+chequer >>But doing it repeatedly with every other word starts to make your perceived age go down. > >I use my spell shaker Your posts are getting ever more annoying and unreadable.