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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD incorrectly emulated by HHH is inCorrectly rejected as non-halting V2 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 19:57:08 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <716eb98aacb83eab21adb89e99a246768e3a626e@i2pn2.org> References: <v6rg65$32o1o$3@dont-email.me> <97e0632d0d889d141bdc6005ce6e513c53867798@i2pn2.org> <v6sdlu$382g0$1@dont-email.me> <v6td3a$3ge79$1@dont-email.me> <v6tp1j$3imib$2@dont-email.me> <v6trdu$3irhh$1@dont-email.me> <v6tu01$3imib$11@dont-email.me> <a177dd76613794d6bb877c65ffe6c587a8f31bc1@i2pn2.org> <v6tvpv$3imib$14@dont-email.me> <091e8b7baeea467ee894b1c79c8943cb9773adb7@i2pn2.org> <v6u346$3khl8$1@dont-email.me> <16ac79611a441e7e01119631051f69119eee958a@i2pn2.org> <v6v06i$3pivt$1@dont-email.me> <23cb2d2401b87bf4f6a604aa1a78b93ffc9a29bc@i2pn2.org> <v6v2t1$3pmjn$3@dont-email.me> <3fc6548531f91ed14a27420caf9679a634573ed0@i2pn2.org> <v70lmo$61d8$1@dont-email.me> <8a6e6d9ff49aabe2525ce5729a439c807de4768a@i2pn2.org> <v71qj3$bvm2$2@dont-email.me> <3d124d535f6d59565df213fa58242ee156ee96bb@i2pn2.org> <v7349r$mjis$1@dont-email.me> <v756vv$15rrp$1@dont-email.me> <v7658i$1b4io$1@dont-email.me> <v77pf4$1nn5l$1@dont-email.me> <v78fd7$1rc43$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:57:08 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3650738"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <v78fd7$1rc43$3@dont-email.me> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4072 Lines: 51 On 7/17/24 9:02 AM, olcott wrote: > On 7/17/2024 1:48 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-07-16 15:57:04 +0000, olcott said: >> >>>>> >>>>> New slave_stack at:1038c4 >>>>> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation Execution Trace Stored at:1138cc >>>>> [00002172][001138bc][001138c0] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>>> [00002173][001138bc][001138c0] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>>> [00002175][001138b8][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>>> [0000217a][001138b4][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call >>>>> HHH(DDD) >>>>> New slave_stack at:14e2ec >>>>> [00002172][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>>> [00002173][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>>> [00002175][0015e2e0][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>>> [0000217a][0015e2dc][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call >>>>> HHH(DDD) >>>>> Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped >>>> >>>> The trace does not show that HHH returns so there is no basis to >>>> think that HHH is a decider. >>>> >>> >>> The trace shows the data of the executed program of HHH that >>> does halt. >> >> It shows some of the data, not all, and in particular, not the halting. >> > > _DDD() > [00002163] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping > [00002164] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping > [00002166] 6863210000 push 00002163 ; push DDD > [0000216b] e853f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DDD) > [00002170] 83c404 add esp,+04 > [00002173] 5d pop ebp > [00002174] c3 ret > Size in bytes:(0018) [00002174] > > DDD emulated by HHH according to the semantic meaning of > its x86 instructions never stop running unless aborted. > > No, the emulation by HHH according to the semantic meaning of the x86 insruction set will not reach the final state, but if ANY instance of the HHH that DDD calls returns, then DDD will return. You are just playing word games, showing your INTENT to deceive. That PROVES you are nothing but a stupid LIAR.