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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
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Subject: Re: The actual truth is that ...
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 09:28:08 -0400
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On 10/13/24 9:01 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 10/13/2024 7:48 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 10/13/24 4:16 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-12 22:52:30 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 10/12/2024 5:12 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Sat, 12 Oct 2024 14:03:01 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 10/12/2024 9:43 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/12/24 6:17 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/12/2024 3:13 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 21:13:18 +0000, joes said:
>>>>>>>>>> Am Fri, 11 Oct 2024 12:22:50 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 12:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 11:06 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 9:54 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 10:26 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 8:05 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 8:19 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 6:04 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/10/24 9:57 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2024 8:39 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/10/24 6:19 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2024 2:26 PM, wij wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2024-10-10 at 17:05 +0000, Alan Mackenzie 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When HHH is an x86 emulation based termination analyzer then 
>>>>>>>> each DDD
>>>>>>>> emulated by any HHH that it calls never returns.
>>>>>>> Nope, Even software Engineering treats the funciton HHH as part 
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> program DDD, and termination analysis as looking at properties of 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> whole program, not a partial emulation of it.
>>>>>> So if we ask the exact question can DDD emulated by any HHH reach its
>>>>>> own return statement they would answer the counter-factual yes?
>>>>> Yes. DDD reaches it, so a purported simulator should as well.
>>>>> Therefore HHH is not a simulator.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tried to tell ChatGPT the same thing several times
>>>> and it would not accept this.
>>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e
>>>>
>>>> Although LLM system are prone to lying: If it told a lie
>>>> there would be an error that could be found in its reasoning.
>>>
>>> Not necessarily in the reasoning. The error could also be in the input
>>> material.
>>>
>>
>> Right, like you claim that HHH can correctly answer based on its 
>> limited knowledge even if that answer is wrong.
>>
>> You TOLD IT that lying was ok.
> 
> See new post:
> [ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work]
> I only told ChatGPT the source-code for DDD
> and the design of HHH.
> 
> You don't want to try to find any mistake that
> it made because you know that you will lose.
> 

Which I have already pointed out the error in.