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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Why VAX Was the Ultimate CISC and Not RISC Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 01:46:03 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <722ff46f0aeaa4875d589fdc68750e08@www.novabbs.org> References: <vpufbv$4qc5$1@dont-email.me> <vqbgp3$2s8lp$1@dont-email.me> <BMHyP.418532$2zn8.34844@fx15.iad> <2025Mar8.115236@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vqiqpn$d34q$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3516250"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="o5SwNDfMfYu6Mv4wwLiW6e/jbA93UAdzFodw5PEa6eU"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$MSNHqBXB0fj3UemU5YcP.uCRj12GhPVe.u6T0o4XIpdJUAUD4d.Di X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: cb29269328a20fe5719ed6a1c397e21f651bda71 On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 1:27:19 +0000, Torbjorn Lindgren wrote: > > Notice the common factor here - MT/Commodore was making a lot of > "working but only barely" chips and Commodore used them internally to > save money and also sold them to others which used them because, well, > they were frequently the cheapest. Radio Shack TRS-80 would buy every Z80 that did not make 2MHz operating frequency. They used something around 1.87 MHz so the CPU clock and the TV clock were the same clock.