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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Relativity and the nature of light. Waves or =?UTF-8?B?cGFydGljbGVzPw==?= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:52:20 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <729c6c816b598ea72c5e917156b4e9b9@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2196478"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="OjDMvaaXMeeN/7kNOPQl+dWI+zbnIp3mGAHMVhZ2e/A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$2dxP0dxMMuM2SGlhUix9pOZ2GAeYhsJf0yDkkJefSvwNmGkKBIoI. X-Rslight-Posting-User: 26080b4f8b9f153eb24ebbc1b47c4c36ee247939 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2657 Lines: 40 This is a comparison of einstenian and newtonian kinematics. In the moving frame, the distance (0, x') is measured from an observer at the origin of the frame at rest. CASE: Light moving from 0 to x' in the moving frame. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Einstein SR. Light behave as wave, and c is the maximun speed. c (t₁ - t₀) = c Δt₁₀ = v Δt₁₀ + x' ; PERCEIVED by observer at rest (no speed addition). (c - v) Δt₁₀ = x' ; Δt₁₀ = x'/(c - v) ; Mathematical time dilation (by calculation). c Δτ₁₀ = c (τ₁ - τ₀) = x' ; Δτ₁₀ = x'/c ; MEASURED by observer in the moving frame Δt₁₀ and Δτ₁₀ are different and depend on the observer location. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Newton. Light behave as corpuscles (photons?). It's allowed c + v (c + v) Δt₁₀ = v Δt₁₀ + x' ; PERCEIVED by observer at rest (addition of velocities) (c + v) Δt₁₀ - v Δt₁₀ = x' ; Δt₁₀ = x'/c ; No time dilation (by calculation). c Δτ₁₀ = x' ; Δτ₁₀ = x'/c ; MEASURED by observer in the moving frame Δt₁₀ and Δτ₁₀ are equal for observers at rest or moving at v speed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- In astronomy (Cassini, others), there are evidences that radar-ranging experiments with Venus and Mars, the speed of light is added to the speed v (between Earth and these planets). Known since 1965. That c+v is possible destroys relativity and cosmology, as Hubble's results have to be RE-INTERPRETED. It's hard for relativists to accept this, as 110 years of lies with einstenian physics COLLAPSE completely.