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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Any honest person that knows the x86 language can see... predict correctly Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:44:02 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <754c182e15a6e06e7133446c48f85c041088f0f4@i2pn2.org> References: <v887np$gl15$1@dont-email.me> <v8a2j5$u4t6$1@dont-email.me> <v8asse$12hr3$2@dont-email.me> <v8aukp$12grj$1@dont-email.me> <v8b00m$12ojm$1@dont-email.me> <v8bchs$15ai5$1@dont-email.me> <v8bh32$15une$1@dont-email.me> <d89f03c5a605f010ec3c83c50137b983dc85848e@i2pn2.org> <v8bl2j$16ibk$2@dont-email.me> <tiuiaj5jf0jqcfcfntko5hufisp8mb93bm@4ax.com> <v8bu91$18b7k$2@dont-email.me> <ddb7a467da20b6a6bd90aee9735a62ae68cac50e.camel@gmail.com> <v8f0ni$204k7$1@dont-email.me> <v8fehe$22ege$1@dont-email.me> <v8fssh$24rl1$5@dont-email.me> <v8g0l3$24u77$2@dont-email.me> <v8g14o$25l0a$9@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:44:02 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1112861"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2899 Lines: 31 Am Thu, 01 Aug 2024 08:04:23 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 8/1/2024 7:56 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 01.aug.2024 om 13:51 schreef olcott: >>> On 8/1/2024 2:46 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>> Op 01.aug.2024 om 05:51 schreef olcott: >>>>> On 7/31/2024 10:08 PM, wij wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 2024-07-30 at 18:50 -0500, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is not supposed to be a general solution to the halting >>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>> it only shows how the "impossible" input is correctly determined >>>>>>> to be non halting. >>>>>> But how do you determine it is non-halting? >>>>>> As I know you are even unable to define what 'halt' mean !!! >>>>> If DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its return >>>>> instruction then it never halts. >>>>> >>>> But a correct simulation is impossible. >>> When HHH does what-ever-the-hell the x86 semantics specifies then HHH >>> is correct. >> But since HHH deviates from the semantics of the x86 language (by >> skipping instructions of a halting program) it is incorrect. >> > Only a freaking moron would believe that a non terminating input should > be simulated forever. I mean, how many iterations of an infinite loop can I skip simulating or how many do I have to simulate to get identical behaviour? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.