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From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
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Subject: Re: What is "local =?UTF-8?B?dGltZSI/?=
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:52:18 +0000
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On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 21:18:37 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> W dniu 17.10.2024 o 21:54, gharnagel pisze:
> >
> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 15:10:58 +0000, Python wrote:
> > >
> > > Le 17/10/2024 à 17:00, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > See, poor idiot: after humans invent something
> > > > they usually give a name to it. One of their
> > > > abstract inventions got the name "time".
> >
> > Trees have been named by humans, so Wozniak is claiming
> > that humans invented trees.
>
> No, I don't.

Of course he claimed that because it's a logical deduction
of what he said.  Assertions have consequences, something
most people learned as a child.

> Harnagel is lying as usual.

Just stating the consequences of Wozniak's absurd assertions.

> As for time -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard
> you've got about 20 times mentioned in the
> article. Point those which are parts of
> nature.

Wozniak is still trying to conflate the philosophical
nature of time with clocks.  This is typical of a so-
called "information engineer" who believes only in
"information":

“Information is not knowledge.” -- Albert Einstein

Here's some REAL knowledge:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_space_and_time

23 pages of discussion in one site, not mentioning time
just 20 times (ooh, ANOTHER definition of "time") with
20 references plus external links.


https://www.thecollector.com/philosophy-of-time/

> > Humans have invented only the name, not the objects.
>
> Time is not an objects,

Irrelevant and deceptive. Objects experience time.

> but, anyway,  I could example hundreds of objects
> invented by humans.

Irrelevant and deceptive.  I can give examples of
millions of objects NOT invented by humans.  For
starters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_stars

Wozniak can't seem to admit that he could possibly be
wrong, even when buried by overwhelming disproof.
Information is not knowledge, and knowledge is not
wisdom.

“To hate being wrong is to change your opinion when you are
proven wrong; whereas pride, even when proven wrong, decides
to go on being wrong.” ― Criss Jami