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Path: ...!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 17:16:48 +0000 From: Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: Steam finally kills Win7/8 support Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 12:16:48 -0500 Message-ID: <760ckjptkal2ph2nt6nkct592s4la6h56a@4ax.com> References: <aba9kj9ilnm1s1rqj6e8iikhpg7tn4klea@4ax.com> <tjl9kj1h3svvu967vot5gp9acuomn4r723@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 51 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-Ui0gZADElwrjnwLm4rQjM6677hOzqmApfxp/B47pjO0BywiH6Cv4OFBvp5kS/x9KhY3bcJ63Pgc1z2F!kCByOBzvdlegX3+jcNE38dIQ3oocoadu6BIwyqIGWEsk2OvV/u4FjrtUJGV5X8hmpolZtvN9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3281 On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:01:07 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 11:49:47 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >Spalls Hurgenson wrote: > >> >>It's no surprise --Valve announced their intentions way back in late >>2023!-- but now it's finallly happened.* The newest versions of Steam >>will no longer run on Windows 7 or 8 (or MacOS 10.13/10.14). So if you >>still have a Windows 7 gaming PC, well... say goodbye to any >>Steam-launched games on that system. >> >>Time to upgrade those old Win7 machines to Linux, I guess. >> >> >> >>* as of November 5th. Okay, I'm a bit late with the announcement ;-) >>https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/4472730495692571025 >> >> > >You know, we were worried about Steam in the early days for the wrong >reasons. It looks like we will (mostly) always have access to our games, >but planned platform obsolescence in the client requires us to upgrade >our OS software beyond compatibility with the older titles. We lose our >games _that_ way. Did not see that coming. > >Is it still possible to download your games with an old client? If not, >then that's the problem. That Steam insists on only its latest version. No. At least, it didn't with my XP machine (I have a Win7 box still, but I don't have Steam on it). With XP, Steam insisted it needed to be updated to the newest version and tried to update itself whenever connected to the internet. Then it discovered, 'Oh, hey, I can't run on XP' and quit with a message to that fact. There was never any opportunity to actually install games. Presumably if you have an XP (or Win7) machine with Steam (and Steam-games) already installed, AND it's not connected to the Internet, you're still safe. For a while, at least. I've had instances in the past where Steam just demanded it be connected to the internet first before it let me play any of my games. Because of this, there is, as far as I can tell, no way to play "Half Life 2" on era-appropriate hardware with an era-appropriate operating system. I know a lot of people don't care about that... but some of us do.