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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: The Lime sock on Stephan Pickering and NAMBLA
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 05:18:46 +0000
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HarryLime wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 2:42:18 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>>
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka "HarryLime" wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 16:51:59 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> That's okay, Pendragon, but I think George Dance has some things to say
>>>>>>>>>> about the poem, since George Dance was the person who mentioned MFH in
>>>>>>>>>> this thread.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Based on George's reaction to the previous comments of my colleague, Dr.
>>>>>>>>> NancyGene and myself, I should think that he would want to stick a "No
>>>>>>>>> Trespassing" sign on his father's lawn.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see HarryLiar is still miffed that I called the comments of him and
>>>>>>> "Dr." NastyGoon psychobabble (which is why he's started calling our
>>>>>>> psychoanalysis of him "psychobabble"),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I honestly don't recall your having previously used the term, George.
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly can't call you a liar for that. Both Will and I have
>>>>> commented on your selective memory. But that of course belongs in the
>>>>> "Psycho-epistemology" thread; you're only bringing it up her
>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that all (me, NancyGene, and yourself) used it when we were
>>>>>> discussing your poem in the past...
>>>>>
>>>>> I seriously doubt that either "Doctor" Peabrain or "Doctor" NastyGoon
>>>>> referred to their own efforts as psychobabble.
>>>>>
>>>>>> but I really don't care enough to
>>>>>> bother looking it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you don't care to look anything up before talking about it.
>>>>> But that, too, belongs on the "Psycho-Epistemology" thread.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm calling yours "psychobabble" because your misuse of psychology-based
>>>>>> terms like "transference" make it clear that you have little to no
>>>>>> knowledge of the subject.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for giving me something I *can* call you a liar for, Lying
>>>>> Michael. In point of fact, you were copying the term "psychobabble"
>>>>> before you accused me of misusing the term "transference" (which I may
>>>>> well be; it looks like psychological jargon for what's commonly called
>>>>> "projection")
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay, we've heard your misrepresentation, Pendragon, I said George Dance
>>>>>>>> might have something to say about his poem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course I'd prefer that readers read my poem, and my own comments on
>>>>>>> it, rather than HarryLiar's psychobabble about it. So I'll be happy to
>>>>>>> post and talk about it again when I have time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're becoming as attention hungry as your Donkey, George.
>>>>>
>>>>> HarryLiar, try to make some sense. You've noted correctly that
>>>>> post-google there are hardlly any people reading aapc; I'm certainly not
>>>>> seeking "attention" for the poem from a non-existent audience.
>>>>>
>>>>> My reason for opening a new thread would be because you're constantly
>>>>> bringing up my poem in unrelated threads, as per your M.O. which I
>>>>> already noted. (As that contained a few typos), I'll copy it in here:
>>>>>
>>>>> "That's been your regular M.O. since you showed up. Whenever I try to
>>>>> have
>>>>> a conversation with Will, about anything, you jump in and start spewing
>>>>> false claims about something else, in the mistaken belief that I'd only
>>>>> have two options:
>>>>> (1) try to refute your false claims, in which case you've successfully
>>>>> disrupted the conversation; or
>>>>> (2) ignore them (in which some people might think those false claims of
>>>>> yours are actually true)."
>>>>>
>>>>>> To save time, why don't you just bump the old thread up to the top of
>>>>>> the feed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rereading it requires much less time on both our parts than repeating
>>>>>> the same points that we'd made at the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> HarryLiar, no one is asking you to comment on that thread (or any of the
>>>>> other threads I've opened FTM). If you have nothing to say on the poem,
>>>>> you're more than welcome to sit that one out.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely, and now we can welcome Nancy Gene back to the newsgroup as
>>>> of tonight.
>>>
>>> The title of this thread is Re: The Lime sock on Stephan Pickering and
>>> NAMBLA.
>>
>> Yes, I'm aware of that.
>>
>>> If you or George make any false statements
>>
>> Just as I'll always correct your lies and misrepresentations about me,
>> and then set the record straight with the truth, Pendragon.
>
> I don't have to lie about, or misrepresent, you, Donkey.  You do that
> yourself:
>
> “Yes, the poem itself is based on a dress I had 43 years ago.
> May 8th 1982 to be exact.”
>
> “It was very clear it was consensual in the poem.
> For example, the girl didn't slap me or yell at me or anything.”
>
> “The sediment that poetry should be entertainment, yeah.”
>
> "I typed several sentences that contain truth, but you accidentally
> snipped them."
>
> "Generally, East Coast refers to NYC."
>
> ”I'm sure there's quite a few Jack Kerouac poems about Fall and Winter,
> as it seems to have been one of his favorite times of the year.”
>
> "I do go in for the childish name-calling."
>
> "One of the goals of poetry as I was taught and still work for, is as
> communication."
>
> "It was done before me and after me, I'm simply adding my version."
>
> "I don't pop pills unless there's no other alternative... being drug
> free for a few years now, you know."
>
> "I'd think so, but never underestimate the stupidity of a troll."
>
> And so on...
>
> --

Your "Will Dockery" obsession is noted, Harry Lime.

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