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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Space and spacetime Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:46:52 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <766d95371391c171627beb10f0e1ae9c@www.novabbs.com> References: <v4k05l$3agjr$3@paganini.bofh.team> <665bf2c2f8d8af99ae6b28936ec91eed@www.novabbs.com> <17da7d7a6a39459a$163213$431754$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <972e62f21cba1316f2184b61c6a0c401@www.novabbs.com> <17da9b4080dd35af$266525$441546$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <a4eb8b42ce7499e5ec60bde25e4e865a@www.novabbs.com> <17dab8b50a072746$163214$431754$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <ccf5155edb060554bdacb76d43c78f36@www.novabbs.com> <17dabca9290af769$189571$436234$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <93708b1befdea8fb7c18da1b3d12630d@www.novabbs.com> <17dac4a0a98761ea$266527$441546$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <9ae2e2bf5f37a77b3e1bd160981c6fd5@www.novabbs.com> <17db1164fde32607$208349$436234$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <392fcd2a13fa911f8f6d5182fb485f7b@www.novabbs.com> <17db1a8a53f81f54$288216$441546$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="746433"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="p+/k+WRPC4XqxRx3JUZcWF5fRnK/u/hzv6aL21GRPZM"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$u5OvgXh1G72ZyT9TC9nTXe3h8TjkFJOKnoa.hNcoPBTIHLth5PNVu X-Rslight-Posting-User: 47dad9ee83da8658a9a980eb24d2d25075d9b155 Bytes: 4609 Lines: 77 Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > W dniu 21.06.2024 o 20:21, gharnagel pisze: > > > > Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > > > > > Put your explaination straight into your > > > dumb, fanatic ass, where it belongs. > > > > An autistic "information engineer" who can't understand > > metaphor gets really asinine when his fuzzy-thinking is > A fanatic piece of lying ship, caught on an > impudent, obvious lie is screaming about a > "metaphor". So Mad Maciej doesn't understand metaphor. Whoda thought :-)) > Why won't you stop dodging and answer - what is the predicttion > of the observer in my example according to the physics of your > idiot guru? First the autistic information engineer must define his terms. I asked him to do this and he still refuses: What is his definition of a day? What is the speed c/2 of the observer with respect to? He tried to turn the argument around referring to the quote from Heinlein, at which he failed miserably. He has dodged the pointed question about speed: "'Speed' in space is a curiously slippery term, as it is relative to whatever point you select as 'fixed' -- but the points in space are never fixed." -- Robert A. Heinlein > > > Tell me, poor halfbrain, was the RELATIVISTIC > > > formula of velocity adding a part of Lorentz's > > > ETHER theory? > > > Yes or no? > > > > Autistic Wozzie-fool seems to think that something that's derived > > from a set of equations is "adding to it." > > > > But let's get to the point here: Wozzie deleted the answer, apparently he's incapable of understanding a cogent argument. > Let's get to the point, sure. Is the RELATIVISTIC formula of velocity > adding a part of Lorentz's ETHER theory? > Yes or no, trash. First of all, no human being is trash, so Weird Wozzy doesn't really want an honest answer, which I already gave to him anyway: "[Heinlein] also said that deriving something was just finding out what you already knew. Meaning, of course, that it was all there in the original equations, implied, which is the case with relativistic velocity addition. As anyone would know if he weren't mathematically incompetent." Because of Wozzie's mathematical incompetence, he can't figure out that (1) relativistic velocity addition is DERIVED from the Lorentz transform equations. (2) "Lorentz's ETHER theory" has NOTHING to do with it because there is no ether*. So LET is a dead end. Dishonest Wozzie's attempt to insert that into his question was a red herring, a misleading fallacy. (3) The RVA equation is derived from the LT equations by dividing the equation for dx' by the equation for dt', so there is no "adding" to either LET or SR. *Ether theory is a dead end because SR took away the last vestige of any physicality: that of motion. IOW, it becomes fundamentally undetectable, which makes it nonexistent for all practical purposes.