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From: tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog)
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Subject: Re: Langevin and Doppler effects...
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On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:18:36 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote:

> Le 07/09/2024 à 00:12, tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) a
> écrit :
>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 21:45:22 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote:
>>
>>> We just have to not be afraid, and have a playful spirit.
>>
>> There is no contradiction.
>
>
>>
>> Terrance receives the exact number of beeps that Stella has transmitted.
>
>
>> Stella receives the exact number of beeps that Terrance has transmitted.
>
> Absolutely.
>
> In 18 years, Stella has pulsed 18*12=216 times.
>
> In 30 years, Terrence has pulsed 30*12=360 times
>
> During the trip, it is impossible for beeps to have been lost, neither
> for
> Terrence nor for Stella.
>
> Everything is of a sumptuous obviousness and a great relativistic
> clarity.
>
>>
>> This is TRIVIAL to demonstrate using a spacetime diagram.
>
>  Oh no please, please no, I beg you...
>
>  No satanic spacetime diagram... Please...pleasa... No....
>
>
>> No matter what path through spacetime Stella follows, this must be true.
>>
>> Don't bother with my table. Just LOOK at my Figure 4-4.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity#Twin_paradox
>
>  Irrelevant.
>
>  Is not my question.
>
>  My question is: Stella sees Terrence in her ultra-powerful telescope
> moving away from her with an apparent speed of 0.4444c, and for 9 years.
> Is it true, or is it not true?
> On the way back, for 9 years, she sees Terrence coming back to her for 9
> years, with a speed of 4c.
> Is it true or is it not true?
> If it is true why not say it?
> In his human trickery, man is very intelligent, he intuitively KNOWS
> that
> he cannot say it.
> If he says: it is false. He makes a fool of himself.
> If he says: it is true, he knows that we will answer, and what distance
> does the earth travel in both cases?
> And this is frankly intolerable for relativistic believers who see their
> God naked, and his two laughable German prophets.

For this, you will have to check the math in my table.
There is no such thing as a 4c approach.
You've made some stupid math errors.
Really, really STOOPID math errors.