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On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 21:08:06 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
> On 4/23/25 3:44 PM, rhertz wrote:
> >
> > Space is what allows matter to exist,

That's not a definition of space. that's an excuse for matter to exist.

> Wait wait wait.. Talk about space without introducing any other physical
> quantity in it. Don't cheat!

Indeed!

> Assume nothing else exists but space. Then say what space is.

Exactly!  What is SPACE?

I've been reading an old book (1999) by Brian Green, "The Elegant
Universe" where he was preaching string theory.  I'm reading about
Calabi-Yau spaces.  Admittedly, these would be models of reality
at best, but I got to thinking: WHAT are they modeling?  And that
led me to think about zero point fields.  We usually mean virtual
electron-positron sea, but there's a sea of each and every virtual
particle pair.  And then Hertz asks the question: what is space?
Space is filled with these virtual particle pairs.  So the question
is: which came first?