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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
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Subject: Re: HHH(DD) --- COMPUTE ACTUAL MAPPING FROM INPUT TO OUTPUT ---
 Ignoramus !!!
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 22:00:12 -0400
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On 4/28/25 11:52 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 4/28/2025 4:01 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2025-04-16 17:36:31 +0000, olcott said:
>>
>>> On 4/16/2025 7:29 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>> On 16/04/2025 12:40, olcott wrote:
>>>>> sum(3,2) IS NOT THE SAME AS sum(5,2).
>>>>> IT IS EITHER STUPID OR DISHONEST FOR YOU TO TRY TO
>>>>> GET AWAY FOR CLAIMING THIS USING THE STRAW DECEPTION
>>>>> INTENTIONALLY INCORRECT PARAPHRASE OF MY WORDS.
>>>>
>>>> Whether sum(3,2) is or is not the same as sum(5,2) is not the 
>>>> question. The question is whether a universal termination analyser 
>>>> can be constructed, and the answer is that it can't.
>>>>
>>>> This has been rigorously proved. If you want to overturn the proof 
>>>> you've got your work cut out to persuade anyone to listen, not least 
>>>> because anyone who tries to enter into a dialogue with you is met 
>>>> with contempt and scorn.
>>>>
>>>> The proof stands.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *corresponding output to the input*
>>> *corresponding output to the input*
>>> *corresponding output to the input*
>>> *corresponding output to the input*
>>> *corresponding output to the input*
>>>
>>> Not freaking allowed to look at any damn thing
>>> else besides the freaking input. Must compute whatever
>>> mapping ACTUALLY EXISTS FROM THIS INPUT.
>>
>> A halt decider is is not allowed to compute "whatever" mapping. It is
>> required to compute one specific mapping: to "no" if the computation
>> described by the input can be continesd forever without halting, to
>> "no" otherwise.
>>
> 
> It must do this by applying the finite string transformation
> rules specified by the x86 language to the input to HHH(DD).'

Which means it is not allowed to stop until it reaches the end, as that 
*IS* the definition of the x86 languagel

> 
> This DOES NOT DERIVE THE BEHAVIOR OF THE DIRECTLY EXECUTED DD.
> It DOES DERIVE DD EMULATED BY HHH AND ALSO DERIVES THE RECURSIVE
> EMULATION OF HHH EMULATING ITSELF EMULATING DD.
> 

Sure it does, as that is EXACTLY what the x86 language says, as it is a 
formal language precisely defined by the x86 processor when directly 
exectuting code.

You don't seem to understand how computers work.