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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <JL@gct.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Typical Globlist Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 16:53:31 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: <797rojljv4dheupc25m75k5lbf34ibkdvk@4ax.com> References: <hrsfoj9q20ebv62q3g0fvo6a9v0sqfhtcu@4ax.com> <bh1gojp2q5iab60tb46b7lcan9svb7c265@4ax.com> <1fhjojtghglio037es1sbi7qh7viqffgk0@4ax.com> <u36lojlpj15nsgo8p0fp696jgvbbtf8n5f@4ax.com> <j8kmojp1kdf214b5e7apl9gp5nkf28kvmp@4ax.com> <vmi11t$1gpah$1@dont-email.me> <1r6ej8o.1ubf1cba2c7nkN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <678d7048$1$212408$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <gduqojdr670h85cmj1o38bjhkkbvrs0qlf@4ax.com> <678d9ab6$3$3620717$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 01:53:35 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="95d89f03429da5b166f1de7e44071e28"; logging-data="2783894"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+6t8ohK05q22+vWwLD4ahN" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:y+8abJ+ad1Dfxf3Nvx6Kr8qLhAU= Bytes: 3312 On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 19:37:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >On 1/19/2025 5:18 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 16:36:08 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >> >>> On 1/19/2025 4:49 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>> Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> [...] >>>>> The proposition that radiant heat generated by one burning would set off >>>>> an adjacent house is pretty dumb. Fire codes are written to make sure >>>>> that houses aren't vulnerable in that way. >>>> >>>> In that case, what spread the fire? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Embers can fly up to 20 km depending on fuel and weather conditions, and >>> during high winds fire breaks are useless. >>> >>> Observe embers from this doorbell cam: >>> <https://www.instagram.com/abc7marccr/reel/DEny6FGSX1f/> >> >> I don't doubt embers could have spread the original fires. What's >> puzzling is how the hell could they have got massive and out of >> control in the first place. > > >2024 was globally the hottest year on record, Maybe because we have thousands of times more sensors than we had in previous millenia. But an increase of a maybe a hundred milliKelvins does not explain the LA fires. and Los Angeles >experienced its warmest summer ever, following a decade of record heat. >It's mitigated somewhat when the winter rains show up this year they >didn't show up. > >The hills above Altadena/Pasadena have had lots of burns controlled and >otherwise in recent years but after a certain percentage of the larger >trees are gone (from climate change or logging/development or otherwise) >they controlled burns don't do shit except let even more flammable >invasive species in. The hills up there were covered in foxtail: > ><https://californiaagnet.com/2021/04/20/the-many-faces-of-foxtails/> > >the stuff burns like newsprint It takes really stupidity to let a house to be burned up by a grass fire.