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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Subject: Re: The Return of Michael Monkey
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2025 20:09:53 +0000
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On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 19:40:08 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 19:29:28 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
>
>> HarryLime wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> HarryLime wrote:
>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 13:03:55 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> MummyChunk wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, why do you lie and misrepresent so much, monkey boy Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pendragon?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just curious.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Why is he called "monkey boy"???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems that the origin stories vary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It might come from the Pink Floyd Animals album, Lord of the Flies or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orwell's Animal Farm, or possibly a mashup of all three.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm known as donkey, Pendleton is the monkey, Peter J. Ross was called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piggy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (although PJR has been gone from the newsgroup for a couple of years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think George Dance has always just been referred to as "Dunce"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics as I remember them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a response to the post seen at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=680817254#680817254
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, Donkey, this is the story of how "Monkey" and "Donkey" came
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since you've brought me back for one more day, Donkey, I'll answer your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> question here (and in the pointless duplicate thread you've created to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask it again it), as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The origin of "Will Donkey" had nothing to do with Gary Gamble.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary Gamble had left the group long before my arrival here.  And as far
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I know, I have never interacted with him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, "Will Donkey" had nothing to do with anything said at AAPC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I live in a very small house that was built in the 1920s.  I like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it as a rustic cottage or a cozy bungalow.  In order to expand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the living space, one of the previous owners finished the basement, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned it into a combination kitchen, dining room and bar.  I keep my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer down there, so when I'm online, I'm technically in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> basement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> About seven years ago (give or take), my wife sent our youngest child
>>>>>>>>>>>>> downstairs to see what I was doing.  He looked over my shoulder while I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was posting something to Usenet AAPC, and shouted up to her "He's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking to Will Donkey the computer."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the idea of someone conversing with a donkey on computer is funny,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it immediately became a running joke in our house.  "Daddy's talking to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will Donkey again," etc).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since stubbornness is one of your strongest characteristics, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately began addressing you as "Will Donkey" in AAPC as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Monkey," otoh, came about when Karen Tellefsen wrote a satirical poem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about our endless flame war here, set to the tune of "Pop Goes the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weasel." "Pop Goes the Weasel," in case you're unfamiliar with it, is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nursery rhyme about a monkey chasing a weasel around a cobbler's bench.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In her poem, she replaced "Weasel" with "Donkey" (signifying you, as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had already started calling you "Will Donkey" at that time). She
>>>>>>>>>>>>> retained "Monkey" from the original because I often posted under my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup account here as "Coco DeSockmonkey."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember Coco.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You and George immediately started calling me "Michael Monkey" as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> result.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I almost always have called you Michael Pendragon, choosing to take
>>>>>>>>>>>> the high road and not dink to your low level of childish insults and
>>>>>>>>>>>> name calling.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You've been calling me a "Little Green Monkey" for the past week or so,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tit for Tat, look it up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No kidding, Pee-wee.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It just counteracts your claim that you "almost always have called (me)
>>>>>>>>> Michael Pendragon."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There ypu have it: "Will Donkey" came from my son's misreading of your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> name on my monitor, and "Michael Monkey" came from Karen's satirical
>>>>>>>>>>>>> poem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds about right except the animal name calling really goes back
>>>>>>>>>>>> to earlier times.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mummy Chunks asked you where the "Monkey Boy" name came from -- not when
>>>>>>>>>>> calling people by childish animal names began.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, we should start at where it all begins, never mind that you second
>>>>>>>>>> handed the idea, Pendragon.
>
>>>>>>>>> MummyChunk didn't ask when the childish name-calling began.  They asked
>>>>>>>>> about the origin of "Monkey Boy."
>
>>>>>> The problem with you is that you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael
>>>>>> Pendragon.
>>>>>
>>>>> That simply isn't true
>>>>
>>>> Of course I don't expect you to admit it, Pendragon.
>>>
>>> You know the rules
>>
>> You break the rules with your lies and misrepresentations almost every
>> day, Pendragon.

I point out your lies and misrepresentations often, and will continue to
do so, Pendragon.

>>> Any so-called "misrepresentation" you can find was based on

There's dozens in the archives.

>> They're based on figments of your delusional imagination, Pendragon,
>> when they're not outright lies.
>
> You show me a "lie

We've been through this a dozen times or more since 2017, you never
admit to your lies and misrepresentations.

We all know this.