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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <JL@gct.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: EMC compliance question Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 19:21:54 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Message-ID: <7ceegjl7tbqvpgi98hngug9dbr01tdvfqp@4ax.com> References: <67070ba9$1$1783$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <ko3egjh48259s212n8i8dc6jql0vlc9vb8@4ax.com> <67072de6$1$3068692$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 04:21:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="afd3e2e495bffb811b8bfac4ec5fc2d1"; logging-data="3151035"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18YC/Grtjuop/mlvCwGp48Z" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:JG1gw0hVtTWLZjD2YrLcftxNe1M= Bytes: 2879 On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 21:29:09 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >On 10/9/2024 7:18 PM, john larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 19:03:28 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >> >>> What's the deal with the "CPU board" exemption? >> >> Where is there such an exemption? > >It's under the section on sub-assemblies: > ><https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/part-15/subpart-B#p-15.101(e)> > >A "CPU board" as defined previously is considered a type of sub-assembly. > >As a hypothetical say someone sells a product that's a PCB with a PIC on >it and some relays that has e.g. RS-232 port and terminal blocks to >connect to other stuff. It's in some sense a functional product, but the >user must at least connect it to some load of their choosing for it to >actually do anything. And they can put it in a housing if they wish, or >not, whatever. > >Is this still a "sub-assembly"? > > >>> "CPU board. A circuit board that contains a microprocessor, or frequency >>> determining circuitry for the microprocessor, the primary function of >>> which is to execute user-provided programming, but not including: >>> A circuit board that contains only a microprocessor intended to operate >>> under the primary control or instruction of a microprocessor external to >>> such a circuit board; or >>> A circuit board that is a dedicated controller for a storage or >>> input/output device." >>> >>> So if one sells a board that has say a PIC on it and some support logic, >>> and the 9kHz+ signals are all internal to the uP (self-clock), but it's >>> otherwise a functionally complete design other than it's not in a >>> housing, is that an exempt product? Do you really care? My Brit friends say that CE means Can't Enforce. It's been a long time since I saw an FCC truck bristling with antennas snooping around.