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On 6/10/24 07:25, Andrew wrote:

> There's no way to discuss facts with you when your entire belief system is
> based on zero facts - which is why you strongly believe in a baseless myth.

For me the prerequisite facts are in the form of two incidents (cited 
earlier) involving in one case my own and in another someone else's use 
of a cell phone in a car. I do not need any others. Youtube is full of 
videos of people stepping into swimming pools or into traffic while on 
the phone, if you need more than that then I can be of no further 
assistance to you.

My opinion of the issue was appended as a sig before, I'll repeat it 
here not as a sig because some people prefer to block sigs as is their 
right. That's my take on it, take it or leave it; no like, no read.

All species of mobile phones, media devices, Bluetooth or not, and 
onboard presentation systems beyond what is essential for vehicle 
control should automatically disable themselves within 10 meters of any 
vehicle in motion at any speed. Hands-Free does NOT mean Brain-Free. In 
the case of approaching vehicles (pedestrian use included) that distance 
should be multiplied (prorated) for every 5 km/h of CLOSURE speed (i.e. 
no such device should be operable within 200 meters of any vehicle 
approaching at 100 km/h). Manufacturers of devices in which such an 
automatic lockout feature is missing or can be disabled should first pay 
large fines and then be barred from the jurisdiction market. With 
respect to other road-hog conduct, in addition to intoxication or 
attention-diverting use of lethal-technology while driving, 
brake-checking and tailgating should also be HANGING crimes. Any 
irresponsible vehicle handling should in fact be punished exactly as it 
would be in the case of irresponsible weapons handling (which ALSO needs 
to be beefed up).