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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Subject: Re: Statement to AAPC on Wallace Stevens poetry on The Betty Blog
Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 14:46:27 +0000
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George J. Dance wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> CC: George Dance:
>>
>> I found "The Dwarf" by Wallace Stevens in the archives and this is the
>> only thread in Nova BBS that appears to match:
>>
>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/01/dwarf-wallace-stevens.html
>>
>>>  > > I posted this today in a different thread. This second post is
>>> an
>>>  > > attempt to archive it in its own thread.
>>>  > >
>>>  > > <Forward>
>>>  > >
>>>  > > On Feb 19, 6:08 pm, Peter J Ross  wrote:
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Btw, have you taken down your pathetic, lying, moronic Web site
>>>  > > (hosted in the US) where you abuse US copyright law by stealing
>>>  > > Wallace Stevens's copyright poems?
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Hint: Lawyers have already been consulted about your Wallace
>>> Stevens
>>>  > > thiefsite.
>>>  > >
>>>  > George Dance wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  > Then I'll have to assume the matter could be in litigation, and
>>> not
>>>  > comment on it publicly. So I'll have to ignore and/or snip
>>> whatever
>>>  > else you have to say about it, in this message and in the future.
>>>  >
>>>  > Now that you're aware of that, any further usenet posts by you on
>>> the
>>>  > subject can only be regarded as pure trolling.
>>>
>>> Ah, nostalgia.
>>>
>
> Yes, that does bring back memories. The "Feb. 19" in PJ Ross's letter,
> BTW, is Feb. 19, 2010. Penny's Poetry Blog went live on January 1, 2010;
> on January 21, I blogged our first Stevens poem; within a month, PJ
> Ross's gang of trolls was already making bogus copyright claims to
> attempt to get poetry off the blog - attempts that that have never
> stopped during the blog's existence.
>
> I ignored them, for the most part, since they were based on an
> misunderstanding of Canadian copyright law; here, all published poetry
> by a poet who died before 1972 is in the public domain. It turns out I
> was right to do so, since they  never succeeded in getting any poems
> removed.
>
> (For the record, only one poem was ever removed from PPB due to a
> copyright claim, by Skipwith Cannell's daughter, who told me it had
> never been published. Since she had put the poem on a website herself, I
> replaced it with a link to her page.)
>
> That could be why, when Team Monkey took up the attacks on the blog,
> they switched strategy to getting living poets to demand I remove the
> poems they had previously given me. Fortunately, TM was successful in
> convincing only two other poets.
>
> After all that, ongoing now for 15 years, I am pleased to report that
> the blog is alive and well and more popular than ever, with more than
> 750,000 pageviews in its history, and a good chance of breaking a
> million views this year.

Someone asked me Thursday night how many views PPB gets, I'll show them
this post.