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From: mpsilvertone@yahoo.com (HarryLime)
Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: The Lime sock on Stephan Pickering and NAMBLA
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 18:41:54 +0000
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:54:10 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:39:15 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:15:50 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:23:41 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 0:13:13 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 18:07:50 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
>>>>> "HarryLime" wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 16:51:59 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 15:52:18 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's okay, Pendragon, but I think George Dance has some things to say
>>>>>>>>>> about the poem, since George Dance was the person who mentioned MFH in
>>>>>>>>>> this thread.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Based on George's reaction to the previous comments of my colleague, Dr.
>>>>>>>>> NancyGene and myself, I should think that he would want to stick a "No
>>>>>>>>> Trespassing" sign on his father's lawn.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see HarryLiar is still miffed that I called the comments of him and
>>>>>>> "Dr." NastyGoon psychobabble (which is why he's started calling our
>>>>>>> psychoanalysis of him "psychobabble"),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I honestly don't recall your having previously used the term, George.
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly can't call you a liar for that. Both Will and I have
>>>>> commented on your selective memory. But that of course belongs in the
>>>>> "Psycho-epistemology" thread; you're only bringing it up her
>>>>
>>>> It is hardly a matter of selective memory to not know who first
>>>> introduced a commonly used word into a specific Usenet group over seven
>>>> years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Why should *anyone* remember such a triviality?
>>>>
>>>> More importantly... why do you remember it?
>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that all (me, NancyGene, and yourself) used it when we were
>>>>>> discussing your poem in the past...
>>>>>
>>>>> I seriously doubt that either "Doctor" Peabrain or "Doctor" NastyGoon
>>>>> referred to their own efforts as psychobabble.
>>>>
>>>> No one said that we did, George.
>>>>
>>>> (Attempted "straw man" noted.)
>>>>
>>>> It does, otoh, make perfect sense that we would have used it in response
>>>> to one of your signature IKYABWAI outbursts, which our psychological
>>>> evaluations provoked.
>>>>
>>>>>> but I really don't care enough to
>>>>>> bother looking it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you don't care to look anything up before talking about it.
>>>>> But that, too, belongs on the "Psycho-Epistemology" thread.
>>>>
>>>> What makes you think that I have any interest in talking about it?
>>>>
>>>> It is a ridiculously inconsequential point at most.
>>>>
>>>> "Psychobabble" is a commonly used word used to dismiss a
>>>> psychology-based argument as worthless because the person making the
>>>> analysis is merely throwing around psychological terminology without
>>>> having a valid understanding of what they actually mean.
>>>>
>>>> It's exactly the sort of word you would employ, because you act under
>>>> the childish assumption that sticking a negative label on an argument
>>>> somehow automatically negates it.
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, it's exactly the sort of word which would apply to your own
>>>> attempts at psychological evaluation, as your *misuse* of clinical words
>>>> like "transference" makes embarrassingly clear.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> I'm calling yours "psychobabble" because your misuse of psychology-based
>>>>>> terms like "transference" make it clear that you have little to no
>>>>>> knowledge of the subject.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for giving me something I *can* call you a liar for, Lying
>>>>> Michael. In point of fact, you were copying the term "psychobabble"
>>>>> before you accused me of misusing the term "transference" (which I may
>>>>> well be; it looks like psychological jargon for what's commonly called
>>>>> "projection")
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, George.
>>>>
>>>> Your entire attempt at psychoanalysis is as ignorant as your misuse of
>>>> that well known psychological term.  In short, your understanding of
>>>> psychology is parallel with your Donkey's understanding of English
>>>> (perhaps a slight exaggeration, but it's almost Donkey level).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay, we've heard your misrepresentation, Pendragon, I said George Dance
>>>>>>>> might have something to say about his poem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course I'd prefer that readers read my poem, and my own comments on
>>>>>>> it, rather than HarryLiar's psychobabble about it. So I'll be happy to
>>>>>>> post and talk about it again when I have time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're becoming as attention hungry as your Donkey, George.
>>>>>
>>>>> HarryLiar, try to make some sense. You've noted correctly that
>>>>> post-google there are hardlly any people reading aapc; I'm certainly not
>>>>> seeking "attention" for the poem from a non-existent audience.
>>>>
>>>> LOL! No, George.  You're desperate for attention from me.
>>>>
>>>> Not that I blame you.  I'm an excellent, and often challenging,
>>>> conversationalist; and you've been stuck here for the past year with no
>>>> one but the Donkey and his socks to keep you company.
>>>>
>>>> If I sent you a soccer ball at this point, you'd welcome it with open
>>>> arms.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My reason for opening a new thread would be because you're constantly
>>>>> bringing up my poem in unrelated threads, as per your M.O. which I
>>>>> already noted. (As that contained a few typos), I'll copy it in here:
>>>>>
>>>>> "That's been your regular M.O. since you showed up. Whenever I try to
>>>>> have
>>>>> a conversation with Will, about anything, you jump in and start spewing
>>>>> false claims about something else, in the mistaken belief that I'd only
>>>>> have two options:
>>>>> (1) try to refute your false claims, in which case you've successfully
>>>>> disrupted the conversation; or
>>>>> (2) ignore them (in which some people might think those false claims of
>>>>> yours are actually true)."
>>>>
>>>> When you're having a conversation *about me*, you mean to say, deceitful
>>>> George.
>>>>
>>>> If you make false statements about me on a social media platform
>>>> (libel), you should expect, at very least, a refutation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> To save time, why don't you just bump the old thread up to the top of
>>>>>> the feed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rereading it requires much less time on both our parts than repeating
>>>>>> the same points that we'd made at the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> HarryLiar, no one is asking you to comment on that thread (or any of the
>>>>> other threads I've opened FTM). If you have nothing to say on the poem,
>>>>> you're more than welcome to sit that one out.
>>>>
>>>> Since the Subject of this thread is "Re: The Lime sock on Stephan
>>>> Pickering and NAMBLA" (and since "The Lime sock[sic]" is the latest
>>>> childish name you have come up with to call me
>>>
>>> Ever the hypocrite here's Michael Pendragon whining about childish name
>>> calling when he's the one who began that practice here years ago.
>>
>> I'm not complaining about the name-calling
>
> Stop lying, Pendragon.
>
> You've been incessantly whining about what you call childish name
> calling for weeks, now.
>
>> I'm merely pointing out that "The Lime sock[sic]" is George Dance's
>> latest name for me.
>
> And you've been whining incessantly about it for a couple of weeks, now,
> Pendragon.
>
> And so it goes.

Name calling has always been an issue for you and George -- who is the
first to respond by calling people "Monkey," "Nazi," "Piggy,"
"Mushmouth," etc.

Please note that I have not stooped to George's level, and have
addressed him only by his real name throughout each of our ongoing
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