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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 07:01:39 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <7efda98e7a36e4370b23e347b329469498383b19@i2pn2.org> References: <vvte01$14pca$29@dont-email.me> <vvte62$15ceh$18@dont-email.me> <100161e$2aia0$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 11:46:35 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="313410"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <100161e$2aia0$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 On 5/14/25 12:26 AM, olcott wrote: > On 5/12/2025 1:20 PM, dbush wrote: >> On 5/12/2025 2:17 PM, olcott wrote: >>> Introduction to the Theory of Computation 3rd Edition >>> by Michael Sipser (Author) >>> 4.4 out of 5 stars 568 rating >>> >>> https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Theory-Computation-Michael- >>> Sipser/ dp/113318779X >>> >>> int DD() >>> { >>> int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >>> if (Halt_Status) >>> HERE: goto HERE; >>> return Halt_Status; >>> } >>> >>> DD correctly simulated by any pure simulator >>> named HHH cannot possibly terminate thus proving >>> that this criteria has been met: >>> >>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> >>> If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its >>> input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D >>> would never stop running unless aborted then >>> >>> H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D >>> specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. >>> </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> >>> >> >> Which is not what you thought he agreed to: >> > > > > > People tried for more than a year to get away with > saying the DDD was not emulated by HHH correctly until > I stipulated that DDD is emulated by HHH according to > the rules of the x86 language. Then they shut up about > this. > > People tried to get away with saying that HHH > cannot not decide halting on the basis of > *simulated D would never stop running unless aborted* > until I pointed out that those exact words are in the spec. > > People tried to get away with saying that the correct > emulation of a non-halting input cannot be partial > Yet partial simulation is right in the spec: > *H correctly simulates its input D until* > > *My reviewers have been dishonest about all of these things* > No, YOU are the one that has been dishonest, and have so admitted it, just using words you don't understand what they meant. Since your HHH and DDD are not program, nothing you have said applies to the topic, and everything you have said is just a lie based on blantently committing a category error.