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On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 08:07:56 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:

<snippo mucho nonsenso>

>There's a verse, I think just before the snake
>shows up, which looks to this critic like someone
>inserted a line, contradicting my "too holy to fix"
>argument, to say that there wasn't rain in the
>newly created world, and therefore, the natural
>phenomenon of a rainbow didn't happen then.  God
>creates a rainbow in the Noah story.  Evidence
>that it happened.  :-)

I think it is the one at the start of the Gen 2 creation story (the
one taking place all on one day), saying that, as rain had not yet
started, a mist went up to water the ground, thus making the mud (from
the ground God had created) God used to form Man.

Nothing says that rain didn't happen later on. Or that rainbows didn't
exist before the Flood, and God simply repurposed them to serve an an
aide-memoire in case He lost control again.

What /is/ clear is that all animals (including Man) were herbivores
before the Fall, and Man was an herbivore until God got a good whiff
of burning entrails and decided to let Man eat meat in the hope of
smelling it again.

BTW, while one explanation of the Flood focuses on Man's wrongdoing,
the other focuses on the Earth being "full of violence". This sort of
thing, together with Isaiah's "Lion lies next to lamb", suggests that
carnivorism was /not/ part of the original design.
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"