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Path: ...!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:59:44 +0000 From: Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: Finally long term stable high density storage Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 14:59:43 -0400 Message-ID: <7jjahjl7rkh1hq1d4f9lf04eulqaua9j70@4ax.com> References: <4f9c24f2e351024177ca1491c6ddf3c06a435754@i2pn2.org> <70cahj10nfeksb9p03e63rbkur8av4ioui@4ax.com> <vf3cf3$gdc3$1@dont-email.me> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 67 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-BKwIF0M5PWsK00uFEpZQouGgLV+zoKGpa7o8shEUqY01NF0IBFOVCVCQFKZCgOw8medlpGp15iyZgh4!IItmpbfnE/FaGc46Bi07NF3K/s/73OyK21rXe2v0jbqaqs/pTVqcgzHxpyk4lC1d3EtHhOPK X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3858 On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:51:49 -0700, Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >On 10/20/2024 9:41 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote: >> >> Disk-space is so cheap and readily available already that -while I >> wouldn't sneeze at a long-term archival medium- it's not really >> necessary. It's surprisingly hard to fill up multi-terabyte sized >> disks under ordinary usage ;-) >> >"Hold my beer." ;) Tru' dat. I remember the days of Iomega Zip Disks; 100mb on a single disk! 74 floppy disks worth!* I bought a five-pack of Zip disks, transferred all my data (including imaging my installation floppies from my game collection) and had hundreds of megabytes to spare. And while Zip disks weren't cheap (IIRC, they went for around $15 per disk), neither were they so inexpensive that I wouldn't be able to accumulate more if necessary. Were I to buy another ten games, a single ZIP disk would easily archive all their installation floppies. I'd never run out of space! Or so I thought... But when ZIP disks proved inadequate, CD-R had fortunately come to our rescue. Almost 7 times the capacity of a single ZIP disk on each CD-ROM, and each disk was a tenth the price! CD-Rs were also easier to store (if only because you could store hundreds of them in a single folder). Plus, while not everyone had a ZIP drive, almost every PC came with a CD-ROM. Once again, my storage problems were permanently solved! Oh, wait; maybe not. But lo and behold! DVD-R has appeared! 8GB per disk!** Ten times the capacity of a single CD-ROM (800 times the capacity of a ZIP disk. 5500 floppy disks!). Just as cheap and easy to store as CD-Rs, and actually quicker to write! Surely now my storage concerns were forever alleviated! So, yeah... history suggests that my reliance on hard-drives (and cloud-storage backups) certainly has a limited shelf-life. Still, the entirety of all the installers from my GOG library fits into a 2TB, 14TB+ drives are easily available (and fairly cheap) and for the time being HDD capacity is outstripping my ability to fill it. Eventually I'll have to find some new medium, but for the time being? HDD will do me fine. -------- * This fallacious belief of mine actually goes back even further. Transferring from the Apple ][ (with its 160kb disks) to the PC (1.44MB _and_ a hard drive!) was like walking out of a tiny closet into the Great Steppes; so much space! Surely nothing could ever fill it! A few years later, enter Ultima VII with its 25MB install footprint. ;-) ** Yes, I know; DVD-R started with 4GB capacity and only reached 8GB some years later. Allow me some poetic license! ;-)