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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Chip for fast pulses Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2025 00:00:38 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: <7mrloj9bfebnuofp064m9ang0pemumqlje@4ax.com> References: <7m5lojd99jhrbbnkvgrfcqpg8v1m6qdsc8@4ax.com> <relloj5ccac3ltmio1r1pad3tq2ggd1bsm@4ax.com> <tumlojtclkm8t37i706ck29hehgffaq6i4@4ax.com> <vmeoh5$914m$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2025 01:00:42 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="12c03257d4e0e0080b7d066e556437d1"; logging-data="346945"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19cZZXIYCRkBnu7TBL8LQwU2byK0YWsL+o=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:EdvKbjDHk8LHmeJ6oVNjaT5doOM= Bytes: 2908 On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 00:23:18 +0100, Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >On 1/17/25 23:43, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 14:26:46 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 17:47:04 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Gentlemen, >>>> >>>> What's available these days for generating well-defined pulses with >>>> really sharp rise times? I admit to being like 40 years behind when it >>>> comes to what ICs can do (and proud of it!) Would 50pS cut the mustard >>>> or is that dog-doo slow nowadays? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> CD >>> >>> 50 ps edges are pretty fast. I tell people that 1 ns starts to be >>> interesting and 100 ps starts to be hard. >>> >>> Some CMOS parts make 200 ps edges. >>> >>> Eclips Lite (EL series) and GigaComm (NB7) are fast ECL logic >>> families. Some Giga parts have 35 ps rise and fall, but tiny swings. >>> >>> There are some interesting laser drivers around, like the SY88022. >>> >>> There were some really fast Russian parts but I don't know if they >>> still can be had. >>> >>> Step-recovery diodes and NLTLs (shock lines) make the fastest >>> all-electrical pulses. Laser stuff gets truly fast, fs and as optical >>> pulses. >> >> Interesting. I'm seeing a *lot* of adverts on Ebay currently for >> "optical TDRs" which must be challenging to produce (to my VHF mindset >> anyway). So yeah, I'm perfectly certain SRDs would be more than >> adequate for anything I wanted to do. NLTLs I'm not familiar with so >> gonna have to look 'em up. > >Optical TDRs have VHF bandwidths. It's the /modulation/ they show. >They certainly don't have the 600-odd THz bandwidth you seem to imply. > >Jeroen Belleman >not Ah - well that would explain a great deal! Thanks.