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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 15:47:35 +0100 Lines: 51 Message-ID: <7pin5lxif5.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <1VcgP.54962$XfF8.39289@fx04.iad> <vm1itg$1f1ma$3@dont-email.me> <vm40cl$21e8l$2@dont-email.me> <6h1bojt7kdp4d5euq0f78rtuvqpg7edc3e@4ax.com> <HHghP.135123$5c34.129668@fx47.iad> <la6bojl7t4686ll2teomlj0ig70ma8o8c8@4ax.com> <Q3hhP.45732$nlJ1.37298@fx41.iad> <vm8tln$326m7$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net B4bcLV5Mi2p2N3m4+IOVSgoa14zpbiCsaVrvc328lHum4JrKrC X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:0cJEV2oGqfpCoAXA+I9jkt0uhqc= sha256:tZNVtqOoDQle/tlEpl40/SMjY5eH+B+l9HJfq0SFbOg= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <vm8tln$326m7$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3343 On 2025-01-15 19:09, Chris wrote: > CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> On 2025-01-13 17:54, Joel wrote: >>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>> On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote: >>>>> MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth >>>>>>> nothing. >>>>>>> >>>>>> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? >>>>> >>>>> Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and >>>>> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. >>>> >>>> There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is a >>>> fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's expensive. >>>> After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on MacOS, >>>> you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is available >>>> for it too, mind you. >>> >>> >>> I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's >>> right for me. >> >> MacOS machines have a shelf life of about seven years before Apple >> decides that your machine is no longer worth supporting with updates. As >> we've seen, Windows machines get about seven, so it's a fair amount of >> time. However, Linux has them both beat with unlimited support no matter >> how pathetic the machine you're running it on is. > > Only if you're prepared to handroll backports etc. Realistically, linux is > also 5-7 years. Most LTS is 5 years. > > The hardest thing is trying to keep gcc up to date. At some point too many > glibc dependencies break and you can't compile any new kernel updates. No, the idea is that you upgrade the system. Thus you continue using Linux for many years on the same machine. For example, on openSUSE Leap the 15.x series started with 15.0 on 2018-05, and 15.6 was released on 2024-06. Users are expected to update to each minor version as they are released. Major version 16.0 is expected by next November. There are no hard hardware requirements to upgrade, like having TPM, but a 32 bit CPU is not supported, and possibly some low end CPUs. -- Cheers, Carlos.