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From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
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Subject: Re: Misplacing components
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On Thu, 2 May 2024 05:37:53 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/1/2024 9:42 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 May 2024 19:10:27 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> My older brother had good teeth but at 85 his gums are giving out.
>> 
>> Tom, your mother's obituaries at:
>> <https://www.grissomsmortuary.com/obituaries/detail/violet-kunich>
>> <https://www.echovita.com/us/obituaries/ca/san-leandro/violet-kunich-8572417>
>> show that your math doesn't work.  If your older brother is really 85
>> years old today, and your mother, had she lived, would be:
>>    87 + (2024 - 2019) = 87 + 5 = 92 years old today, then your mother
>> was only:
>>    92 - 85 = 7 years old
>> when your older brother was born.
>> 
>> Another way to look at it is your brother would have been:
>>    85 - (2024 - 2019) = 80 years old when your mother died at age 87.
>> 
>> I don't believe you have an older brother.  However, it's difficult to
>> tell from your mother's obituary because the name of the alleged
>> brother is listed as Ted (Jennifer) Kunich, which could be a brother
>> or sister.
>> 
>> You might also want to fix the above Grissom Mortuary obituary text,
>> which claims that she was:
>> "Violet is survived by her husband of 23 years, John Kunich..."
>> John Kunich died in 1987:
>> <https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10002-88144066/john-a-kunich-in-us-social-security-death-index-ssdi>

>further to that point, tom is 80? that would have made his mother 12 
>when she had him?

Close.  Tom claims he was born in Oct, 1944.  That makes him 79.5
years old.

I don't know what to think about the mess I've uncovered.  There are
some obvious mistakes and discrepancies.  To deal with such things, I
typically use Occam's Razor, which applied here means that the fewest
number of changes that make the dates and names work, is probably
correct.  Unfortunately, that works best when there's only one error.
In this mess, it appears to me that EVERYTHING is wrong.  The only
numbers I can trust are those provided by official documents and
databases.  The dates in both obituaries were presumably provided by
family members, so those cannot be considered authoritative.  Using
probability that a number is correct isn't going to work when almost
all the dates and numbers are likely to be wrong.  I'm not even sure
if there are one or two Tom's:

06/22/2022
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/bycPOPjsB8Y/m/nvoxM67OBAAJ>
"...there is a man with the SAME NAME and SAME AGE as me. I stated
that I received his mail when he lived in San Leandro and personally
took it to his proper address..."

In order to make some sense of this, I would need to change almost
every event, date and number.  As threatened, I started building a
time line.  That's when I found the problem with Tom's alleged older
brother's age.  So, I temporarily gave up, to be continued when I find
better information (and maybe some inspiration).  Or, I can wait for
Tom to either fix the dates and/or provide explanations.




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