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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
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Subject: Re: Defining a correct simulating halt decider
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 22:35:12 -0400
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On 9/5/24 1:17 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 9/5/2024 11:56 AM, joes wrote:
>> Am Thu, 05 Sep 2024 11:52:04 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 9/5/2024 11:34 AM, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Thu, 05 Sep 2024 11:10:40 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>> On 9/5/2024 10:57 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>> Am Thu, 05 Sep 2024 08:24:20 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>> On 9/5/2024 2:34 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-09-03 13:00:50 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/2024 5:25 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-09-02 16:38:03 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Show the details of how DDD emulated by HHH reaches its own machine
>>>>>>> address 0000217f.
>>>>>> By HHH returning, which we are guaranteed from its definition as a
>>>>>> decider.
>>>>> How the F--- Does the emulated HHH return?
>>>> I don’t know, you claim it’s a decider!
>>> You KEEP TRYING TO CHEAT by erasing the context !!!
>> It is very well known by this point.
>>
>>> DDD emulated by HHH CANNOT POSSIBLY reach its own machine address
>>> 0000217f.
>> Only HHH can’t simulate it.
>>
>>> The directly executed HHH correctly determines that its emulated DDD
>>> must be aborted because DDD keeps *THE EMULATED HHH* stuck in recursive
>>> emulation.
>> Why doesn’t the simulated HHH abort?
>>
> 
> The first HHH cannot wait for its HHH to abort
> which is waiting for its HHH to abort on and on
> with no HHH ever aborting.
> 

Which is why it gets the wrong answer.

It needs to know what that result is to get the right answer, so it 
needs to guess, and does it wrong.

Sorry, you are just proving you don't know what you are talking about.

There is no rule that HHH needs to be able to determine the answer, as 
some problems are just uncomputable.

Something you don't seem to believe in because you don't understand how 
to count.