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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: j.nobel.daggett@gmail.com (LDagget) Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Evidence v Conclusions Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 09:38:32 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <818688cb71aff95c2b77b8dcc32905e7@www.novabbs.com> References: <1tf21jdg30uru7c2ossq8j6ifrqdcefh0l@4ax.com> <86o7amocxq.fsf@example.com> <ecbdbe72b12496cecb6d807b77b50cd8@www.novabbs.com> <4pt31jt1v0knttfi94q1eq3j28vgmd30eu@4ax.com> <8167cdaf53d77604c76017eab67bfb27@www.novabbs.com> <frj41jteurkm5tclio84h119l44l5m5p58@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="92954"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Rocksolid Light To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: <news@i2pn2.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id BA8F522976C; Sun, 7 Apr 2024 05:40:23 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCF9229758 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Sun, 7 Apr 2024 05:40:21 -0400 (EDT) id C5C5E5DCE2; Sun, 7 Apr 2024 09:40:27 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5A55DCBE for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sun, 7 Apr 2024 09:40:27 +0000 (UTC) id 166E6598002; Sun, 7 Apr 2024 09:40:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Injection-Info: ; posting-account="t+lO0yBNO1zGxasPvGSZV1BRu71QKx+JE37DnW+83jQ"; X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$3onCieAWNZEoAo5R4gqNtukpI0395cYJid.NKtkenmI2UHb55YSpq X-Rslight-Posting-User: c5f6b781ff4ba2020b43295a6d215cc93d00a846 Bytes: 4550 Lines: 63 jillery wrote: > On Sun, 7 Apr 2024 03:25:14 +0000, j.nobel.daggett@gmail.com (LDagget) > wrote: >>jillery wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 14:38:14 +0000, j.nobel.daggett@gmail.com (LDagget) >>> wrote: >> >>>>Richmond wrote: >>>> >>>>> jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> writes: >> >> >>> nothing below. Apparently you have a problem with keeping context. >> >>There exist reasons to delete text that I'm not addressing. >>There are reasons to nevertheless leave in a few extra reference >>lines, even to deleted text, to maintain header integrity because >>that affects how well some newsreaders manage threading. >> >>How's that for context? > Since you asked: > As you should know, I regularly delete text to focus on a point that's > orthogonal to the larger context, so that isn't the problem here. The > OP comments you deleted are in fact central to the comments to which > you replied, as that reply was a direct response to the OP. And to > the degree your reply is relevant to the comments to which you > replied, so too are they relevant to the OP comments you deleted and > to the OP topic generally. > Also your alleged concern for header integrity would be better applied > to a concern for context continuity IMO. But since you thought some > comments were so irrelevant to your comments, and/or so contrary to > header integrity, that you went out of your way to delete them, > consistency suggests you delete any references to those deleted > comments, as said references are by definition also equally irrelevant > and/or contrary. > Given the above, I conclude your context above sounds like an excuse > to delete text for reasons which have nothing to do with either > context continuity or header integrity. > You're welcome. > -- > To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge I guess you're butt hurt that you and others didn't get to re-read your OP. To me it was a distraction. I was focusing countering the claim that nobody has ever "seen" an electron. "seen" as to avoid trite interpretations like 'with the naked eye'. This does not actually match to your original framing. You did not discuss electrons. And I would disagree with you about your rather over-simplified distinction between evidence and conclusions but was not interested in picking that fight, not with you. It's a philosophy argument with subtle refinements that I personally would hesitate to engage in within this forum.